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<scribe> ScribeNick: hober
paulc: there aren't any
... the one oustanding action item is due next week
ISSUE-203?
<trackbot> ISSUE-203 -- All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203
paulc: there's a call for change proposals out
ISSUE-180?
<trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
paulc: no objections to the CfC
ISSUE-181?
<trackbot> ISSUE-181 -- remove remains of "sidebar" link relation -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181
paulc: no objections to the CfC
ISSUE-187?
<trackbot> ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over the time -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187
paulc: we have a change proposals, so there's a call for alternate proposals
ISSUE-190?
<trackbot> ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190
paulc: we have a change proposal
ISSUE-191?
<trackbot> ISSUE-191 -- Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191
paulc: closed on 1/21, we have a change proposal
ISSUE-192?
<trackbot> ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match reality -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192
paulc: call for change proposals closed on 1/21
paulc: due to christmas break, there are none
paulc: there are none
ISSUE-187?
<trackbot> ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over the time -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187
paulc: call for alternate change proposals closes on 2/23
<Clarke> +Clarke_Stevens
ISSUE-190?
<trackbot> ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190
paulc: we have a single change proposal; call for counter change proposals closes on 2/23
ISSUE-191?
<trackbot> ISSUE-191 -- Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191
paulc: call for counter change proposals closes on 2/23
ISSUE-192?
<trackbot> ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match reality -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192
paulc: call for alternate or
counter change proposals closes on 2/23, we have a single
proposal
... we encourage wg members to discuss these on
public-html
... early filing of counter proposals is encouraged
paulc: there aren't any
ISSUE-180?
<trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
ISSUE-181?
<trackbot> ISSUE-181 -- remove remains of "sidebar" link relation -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181
paulc: both have been closed by
amicable consensus because there were no objections
... the related bugs will be so marked & the editor has
been asked to make the changes
krisk: met last week on the 17th
<krisk> Meeting Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Jan/0004.html
krisk: slow month, but a few more
test submissions came in
... jgraham is helping with test reviews
... we meet again next week
... sent a mail to the testing list updating our schedule
through the end of july & updated wiki about same
<krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Jan/0005.html
paulc: do you have a page that describes the current test suite status?
<krisk> http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/
<krisk> http://w3c-test.org/html/
MikeSmith: we met today
<MikeSmith> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0270.html
<MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/26-html-a11y-minutes.html
MikeSmith: we talked about the
<meta name=generator> cp steve f. has been working
on
... the spec has an exception for image alternative text if
there's a <meta name=generator> element in the doc
... CP will advocate for removing this exception
... tentative resolution to endorse this CP
... TF asking steve to fix up the negative effects
section
... also talked about revert request laura submitted
yesterday
... no resolution
... a11y tf has a number of sub teams
... the bug triage team was quite active at the end of the
year
... many bugs have been open for a long time in NEEDSINFO
state
... some in NEEDSINFO for a year or more
... we're going to remind folk to supply requested information
on these bugs
<MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/19-html-a11y-minutes.html
Cynthia: a11y api mapping is coming along, would like feedback from test tf
MikeSmith: we have a sub team working on a implementors guide for a11y platform api mappings
<MikeSmith> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-api-map/raw-file/tip/Overview.html
<MikeSmith> HTML to Platform Accessibility APIs Implementation Guide: A user agent developer's guide to understanding and implementing accessibility support in HTML
ISSUE-177?
<trackbot> ISSUE-177 -- References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/177
krisk: are they looking for someone to write tests for the mapping doc?
MikeSmith: they'd like a conversation with you about this
paulc: ISSUE-177, re-issued call
for input from Chairs
... item is still pending, would like more feedback from wg
members
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0132.html
<paulc> DP bug: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13263
ISSUE-30?
<trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
paulc:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0231.html
... mjs has given current status of this issue on the a11y
list
... chairs are continuing to work on finalizing their review of
the cp
paulc: rich and the a11y tf have
asked for the schedule to be revisited given upcoming
events
... chairs have replied
... chairs would like to get a concrete proposal
... it's hard to get others to respond without there being a
concrete proposal on the table
... laura's revert request
<paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0136.html
paulc: the chairs can't convene until early next week due to travel etc.
<paulc> The Chairs will process this request early next week when we can convene a meeting with all three co-chairs present.
paulc: it's mjs's turn to chair
next week
... volunteers to scribe?
paulc tentatively volunteers
paulc: summarizes previous
conversation to rich
... sam asked for a concrete proposal
<paulc> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0113.html
<paulc> "If you would like us to consider a change, making a concrete proposal "
richardschwerdtfe: my main justification is, if we have counter proposals, will we have time to address them in that 1 month period
paulc: please respond to
sam
... would help to paramaterize, e.g. "if we get 10 CPs, we
could use N weeks instead of 4 weeks"
richardschwerdtfe: sounds fair
paulc: we are adjourned
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