ISSUE-17: Data use by 1st Party

Data use by 1st Party

State:
CLOSED
Product:
Compliance Next
Raised by:
Opened on:
2011-09-21
Description:
Related Actions Items:
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Related emails:
  1. Re: Mapping the "framework" to ISSUEs (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2013-05-07)
  2. Mapping the "framework" to ISSUEs (from jmayer@stanford.edu on 2013-05-07)
  3. Re: ISSUE-154: Are First parties allowed to use data (either offline or online) from third parties (from aleecia@aleecia.com on 2012-07-25)
  4. agenda: 25 July 2012 call (from aleecia@aleecia.com on 2012-07-24)
  5. Updated response to Aleecia's Template, Issue-10, Issue-17, Issue-19, Issue-22, Issue-24, Issue-25, Issue-31, Issue-49, Issue-73 (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2012-04-07)
  6. deeper look at agenda items (from aleecia@aleecia.com on 2012-04-07)
  7. Aleecia's Template for Issue-10, Issue-17, Issue 19 (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2012-04-06)
  8. Revised template for parties and business uses (from aleecia@aleecia.com on 2012-03-28)
  9. template for parties and business uses (from aleecia@aleecia.com on 2012-03-28)
  10. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-12-05)
  11. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-12-02)
  12. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from karld@opera.com on 2011-12-02)
  13. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations; Issue-5 Definition of Tracking (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-12-02)
  14. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations; Issue-5 Definition of Tracking (from jeff@democraticmedia.org on 2011-12-02)
  15. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-12-02)
  16. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations; Issue-5 Definition of Tracking (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-12-02)
  17. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-12-01)
  18. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations; Issue-5 Definition of Tracking (from CPedigo@online-publishers.org on 2011-12-01)
  19. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from acolando@microsoft.com on 2011-12-01)
  20. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations; Issue-5 Definition of Tracking (from jeff@democraticmedia.org on 2011-12-01)
  21. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from jeff@democraticmedia.org on 2011-12-01)
  22. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-30)
  23. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from haakon.bratsberg@opera.com on 2011-11-30)
  24. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations; Issue-5 Definition of Tracking (from haakon.bratsberg@opera.com on 2011-11-30)
  25. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from karld@opera.com on 2011-11-30)
  26. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from rob@blaeu.com on 2011-11-30)
  27. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations; Issue-5 Definition of Tracking (from CPedigo@online-publishers.org on 2011-11-30)
  28. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-11-30)
  29. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2011-11-30)
  30. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-11-30)
  31. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from jeff@democraticmedia.org on 2011-11-30)
  32. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from kevsmith@adobe.com on 2011-11-30)
  33. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-30)
  34. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from karld@opera.com on 2011-11-30)
  35. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-30)
  36. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-11-30)
  37. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from tlr@w3.org on 2011-11-30)
  38. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from carmen@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-11-30)
  39. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-30)
  40. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from karld@opera.com on 2011-11-30)
  41. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-30)
  42. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from dwainberg@appnexus.com on 2011-11-30)
  43. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations; Issue-5 Definition of Tracking (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-30)
  44. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from karld@opera.com on 2011-11-30)
  45. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations; Issue-5 Definition of Tracking (from nmarnau@datenschutzzentrum.de on 2011-11-30)
  46. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from Vincent.Toubiana@alcatel-lucent.com on 2011-11-30)
  47. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-29)
  48. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from karld@opera.com on 2011-11-29)
  49. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from karld@opera.com on 2011-11-29)
  50. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from jmayer@stanford.edu on 2011-11-29)
  51. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from karld@opera.com on 2011-11-29)
  52. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from jmayer@stanford.edu on 2011-11-29)
  53. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations; Issue-5 Definition of Tracking (from jeff@democraticmedia.org on 2011-11-29)
  54. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from karld@opera.com on 2011-11-29)
  55. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from jmayer@stanford.edu on 2011-11-29)
  56. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations; Issue-5 Definition of Tracking (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-11-29)
  57. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-11-29)
  58. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from karld@opera.com on 2011-11-29)
  59. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-29)
  60. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-29)
  61. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from haakon.bratsberg@opera.com on 2011-11-29)
  62. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from jeff@democraticmedia.org on 2011-11-29)
  63. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-29)
  64. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-29)
  65. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from dwainberg@appnexus.com on 2011-11-29)
  66. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from rob@blaeu.com on 2011-11-29)
  67. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from jmayer@stanford.edu on 2011-11-29)
  68. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-11-29)
  69. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from sharvey@google.com on 2011-11-29)
  70. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from dwainberg@appnexus.com on 2011-11-29)
  71. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from sharvey@google.com on 2011-11-29)
  72. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from dwainberg@appnexus.com on 2011-11-29)
  73. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from sharvey@google.com on 2011-11-29)
  74. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from acolando@microsoft.com on 2011-11-29)
  75. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from jccannon@microsoft.com on 2011-11-29)
  76. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from sharvey@google.com on 2011-11-29)
  77. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from jeff@democraticmedia.org on 2011-11-29)
  78. RE: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from jccannon@microsoft.com on 2011-11-29)
  79. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2011-11-28)
  80. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-11-28)
  81. Re: Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2011-11-28)
  82. Issue-17, Issue-51 First party obligations (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-11-28)
  83. Re: 'cross-site' (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-11-19)
  84. Re: 'cross-site' (tags: ISSUE-17, ISSUE-51) (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-11-18)
  85. Re: 'cross-site' (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-11-18)
  86. RE: 'cross-site' (from jccannon@microsoft.com on 2011-11-18)
  87. Re: 'cross-site' (from aleecia@aleecia.com on 2011-11-18)
  88. RE: 'cross-site' (from jccannon@microsoft.com on 2011-11-18)
  89. RE: 'cross-site' (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-18)
  90. RE: 'cross-site' (from jccannon@microsoft.com on 2011-11-18)
  91. RE: 'cross-site' (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-18)
  92. Re: 'cross-site' (from jmayer@stanford.edu on 2011-11-18)
  93. RE: 'cross-site' (from julespol@futureofprivacy.org on 2011-11-16)
  94. RE: 'cross-site' (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-16)
  95. RE: 'cross-site' (from julespol@futureofprivacy.org on 2011-11-16)
  96. Re: 'cross-site' (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-11-16)
  97. Re: 'cross-site' (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-11-16)
  98. RE: 'cross-site' (from julespol@futureofprivacy.org on 2011-11-16)
  99. Re: 'cross-site' (from npdoty@w3.org on 2011-11-16)
  100. RE: first parties (from brett@adobe.com on 2011-10-09)
  101. Re: first parties (from tien@eff.org on 2011-10-09)
  102. Re: first parties (from mts@zurich.ibm.com on 2011-10-09)
  103. RE: first parties (from brett@adobe.com on 2011-10-07)
  104. Re: first parties (from mts@zurich.ibm.com on 2011-10-07)
  105. RE: first parties (from mike@iab.net on 2011-10-07)
  106. RE: first parties (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-10-07)
  107. Re: first parties (from justin@cdt.org on 2011-10-07)
  108. RE: first parties (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-10-07)
  109. Re: first parties (from justin@cdt.org on 2011-10-06)
  110. RE: first parties (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-10-06)
  111. RE: first parties (from acolando@microsoft.com on 2011-10-06)
  112. first parties (from aleecia@aleecia.com on 2011-10-06)
  113. RE: Proposed language for first-party websites (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-10-06)
  114. Re: Proposed language for first-party websites (from mike@iab.net on 2011-10-05)
  115. Re: Proposed language for first-party websites (from aleecia@aleecia.com on 2011-10-04)
  116. Proposed language for first-party websites (from jmayer@stanford.edu on 2011-10-03)
  117. Agenda for 2011-09-28 TPWG call (from aleecia@aleecia.com on 2011-09-26)
  118. More details for tomorrow AM (from mts@zurich.ibm.com on 2011-09-22)
  119. ISSUE-17: Data use by 1st Party (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2011-09-21)

Related notes:

See ISSUE-50 and ISSUE-51 for more detailed versions of this topic.

Nick Doty, 28 Sep 2011, 06:23:13

Notes from Jennifer Karan from the MIT f2f.

Issue 17: data use by 1st party
-issue 50: should DNT be sent to 1st party
-RESOLUTION: yes so that the 1st party knows how to handle third party
-1st party needs to recognize DNT signal, but doesn't need to respect it because it's first party
-issue: may/should vs. must -> does this confuse users and how do we communicate this?
-issue: they still need to monetize their site
-issue: self reg doesn't match DNT
-see excel grid for additional issues
-issue: How do self reg and DNT communicate
-issue: can you used registration data to target even if DNT is turned on
-issue: BT ads vs. tracking -> is this subset or not?
-issue: should 1st party know what is being sent to the third parties on their site
-issue: party may not know if they are 1st or 3rd party
-main issues: sites could publish what they are, info could be sent to iframes but it would require re-architecture, content that doesn't know if it's first or third party
-might not want to tell an iframe where it is -> may not know where it i
-browser may not know the ownership of the site
-sites could publish all of what it is (what is their universe) then browsers would know 1st vs. 3rd -> potentially difficult to maintain
-need to have a separate tech discussion
-issues 50-63 opened for this topic

Nick Doty, 28 Sep 2011, 15:52:02

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tracking/2011Nov/0007.html -> Text from Roy that had been in the TPE spec, and perhaps should migrate to the compliance spec

Aleecia McDonald, 28 Nov 2011, 07:00:51

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tracking/2011Nov/0198.html

Aleecia McDonald, 28 Nov 2011, 10:33:57

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tracking/2011Oct/0013.html -- early proposal from Tom

Aleecia McDonald, 28 Nov 2011, 10:39:44

Differences in wording choices still to resolve

Aleecia McDonald, 11 Apr 2012, 19:03:45

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