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Web Events WG Voice Conference

11 Oct 2011

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Art_Barstow, Doug_Schepers, Olli_Pettay, Cathy_Chan, Sangwhan_Moon
Regrets
Chair
Art
Scribe
Art

Contents


<scribe> ScribeNick: ArtB

<scribe> Scribe: Art

Date: 11 October 2011

Tweak Agenda

AB: I submitted a draft agenda on October 10 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/0035.html. Any change requests? The focus today is addressing comments for the Touch Events LCWD.
... we'll skip testing today

Announcements

AB: any short announcements today?
... re the f2f meeting on Tuesday November 1, I still consider its status as "undecided" but if we do meet that day it will be 9:00-12:00 maximum and we will have a teleconf bridge for remote participants.
... given there are only 5 WG members registered yet almost 20 non-members, it may make sense to meet for the first half-hour or so just to give people an update/status.
... Reminder: October 11 is the deadline for comments for the TEv1 LC
... The comment tracking document is http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/TouchEvents-LCWD-13-Sep-2011.

Issue-21 and Issue-22 ; status of Cathy's proposals

AB: it looks like Cathy submitted changesets to address Issue-21 and Issue-22 so I think we can now close both of them (http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/issues/21, http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/issues/22).
... I already updated the DoC doc to reflect the WG and Commenter are in agreement (LC-1 and LC-2)
... thanks Cathy!

Feedback from PFWG on Touch Events 13 September 2011 draft

AB: the WAI PFWG submitted some comments and no one has responded yet http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011JulSep/0091.html so let's look at them and make some decisions
... LC-6 and LC-7
... we need someone to agree to propose text to address these issues

… any volunteers?

SM: I will take an action to address comment #2

<scribe> ACTION: moon respond to PFWG comment #2 (the editorial nits) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/11-webevents-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-81 - Respond to PFWG comment #2 (the editorial nits) [on Sangwhan Moon - due 2011-10-18].

AB: I would split comment #1 into 2 pieces

… one is a request for Primer doc

… and the other asks for a clarification re mouse events and touch events

DS: we mention that in the charter

AB: "The relation between touch events and mouse

events should be explained in more detail for authors who want to

achieve device independence.

"

DS: agree with that point

… but it is not something the spec should necessarily address

… e.g. this spec does not define mouse events

… and I think that is appropriate

… I do agree having a clear defn would be useful but it doesn't belong in the TE spec

<smaug> quite bad echo

AB: can you respond to that Doug?

DS: would prefer someone else to take it

SM: OK, I can take care of that

<scribe> ACTION: Moon respond to PFWG comment #1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/11-webevents-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-82 - Respond to PFWG comment #1 [on Sangwhan Moon - due 2011-10-18].

AB: do you have enuf info Sangwhan?

SM: yes

DS: agree a Primer-type info would be useful but don't think the TE spec should include it

AB: ok, then we have a plan to address the PFWG comments
... Sangwhan, when can you address these Actions?

SM: I will try to get a draft out tomorrow

AB: OK, that would be great

comments from Greg Dennis

AB: during the Sept 20 call, we discussed <http://www.w3.org/2011/09/20-webevents-minutes.html#item03> comments from Greg Dennis <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011JulSep/0065.html> and Doug agreed to Action-77 http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/actions/77

<smaug> The echo is really bad

<shepazu> action-77?

<trackbot> ACTION-77 -- Doug Schepers to reply to Greg Dennis table for each touch event type per agreement on 20-Sep-2011 call -- due 2011-10-10 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/actions/77

DS: so this is Action-77?

Action-77?

<trackbot> ACTION-77 -- Doug Schepers to reply to Greg Dennis table for each touch event type per agreement on 20-Sep-2011 call -- due 2011-10-10 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/actions/77

AB: yes

DS: not sure when I can get to it

SM: is this critical for LC?

DS: good point; we will go back to LC

AB: yes, that's correct

DS: I can point somebody to my code

AB: f.ex. http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/#event-type-DOMActivate

<shepazu> http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/#event-types-list

<shepazu> http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/#event-types-list

DS: we can add the table

AB: the table will be normative I presume

DS: what is the LC#2 plan?

AB: I was hoping to publish it next week

SM: could this be easily done with ReSpec?

DS: I think it needs to be modified

AB: is it clear what Greg is asking for?

SM: yes, I think so

DS: yes, I think we have all of the info

… D3E is more specific

… all of the info is derivable

SM: if I have an extra week, I can look into it

AB: can anyone else help?

SM: I can get something out by the end of next week

<scribe> ACTION: moon create an input to address the table requested by Greg Dennis [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/11-webevents-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-83 - Create an input to address the table requested by Greg Dennis [on Sangwhan Moon - due 2011-10-18].

AB: I'll see if I can get to it sooner

<scribe> ACTION: barstow try to help Sangwhan with Action-83 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/11-webevents-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-84 - Try to help Sangwhan with Action-83 [on Arthur Barstow - due 2011-10-18].

Plan for Touch Events LC#2

AB: I'd like to get a new LC published as soon as we can - Oct 18 if possible - and certainly before TPAC starts and set a longer term goal of publishing a Candidate Recommendation in November.
... based on the actions created today, it looks like a pub on Oct 18 won't happen

… but we can still try to get it pub'ed before TPAC

DS: last day to submit a pubreq before TPAC is Oct 25

AB: so that is still do-able

DS: I'll be offline on Oct 24 and limited availability next week

AB: it doesn't seem like that much work is needed to get LC#2 out

DS: yes, I think that's true

AB: I think we have a set of actions

… now we need to execute

AB: anything else on LC#2?

Any Other Business (AOB)

DS: I won't be available next week

… hope to talk to some Members about joining Web Events

… during my biz trip

AB: OK; good
... tentatively have a call next week

… and Sangwhan, please keep me posted on the status of your actions

SM: will do

AB: perhaps we can use email to synch up rather than have a meeting next week
... anything else for today?
... meeting adjourned

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: barstow try to help Sangwhan with Action-83 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/11-webevents-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: moon create an input to address the table requested by Greg Dennis [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/11-webevents-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Moon respond to PFWG comment #1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/11-webevents-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: moon respond to PFWG comment #2 (the editorial nits) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/11-webevents-minutes.html#action01]
 
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