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<smaug> mbrubeck: once I've written some more, perhaps you could push those to w3c hg
<scribe> ScribeNick: ArtB
<scribe> Scribe: Art
Date: 04 October 2011
<smaug> yes
AB: I submitted a draft agenda to the list on October 3 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/0000.html. Any change requests?
<ssharma2> +1.408.653.aabb is Suman_Sharma
AB: any short announcements for today?
AB: reminder the comment deadline
for the Touch Events v1 LC is October 11 http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-Touch-Events-20110913/.
I think the comment tracking document includes all of the
comments submitted to date <http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/TouchEvents-LCWD-13-Sep-2011
... if I missed anything, please let me know
AB: this is a standing issue
<http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/issues/19>.
Any feedback from Webkit community?
... I haven't seen anything
MB: I have not
AB: this leaves us where we were
last time
... this is related to Issue-23 ...
AB: we discussed Issue-23
http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/issues/23
last week http://www.w3.org/2011/09/27-webevents-minutes.html#item04
and there was some subsequent followup between Matt, Anne and
Olli
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011JulSep/0092.html
... If Olli is OK with removing initTouchEvent method from TE
v1, then I think we have consensus. A consequence of that
change is a new LC will be needed.
... is that a fair characterization?
OP: it's OK with removing it
… from v1
… And we need to do something about creating events in v2
… But this allows v1 to proceed
… and we can continue to work on v2
… This also means all testing will need to be manual
AB: it seems like we have consensus on Issue-23 to remove initTouchEvent
… are there any objections to removing it?
AB: Doug of course has an opinion on this
… and I believe he now agrees with removing initTouchEvent from v1
… I know he isn't here
MB: yes, I think Doug agreed with this proposal to remove during the last call
AB: then let's record a resolution and close Issue-23
RESOLUTION: the initTouchEvent method will be removed in LC1 (and this means a new LC will be needed)
AB: anything else on that issue?
MB: we need an action to remove that method
… I can't do it this week
AB: can anyone else take an action to remove that method
<scribe> ACTION: brubeck remove the initTouchEvent method from v1 spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/04-webevents-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - Remove the initTouchEvent method from v1 spec [on Matt Brubeck - due 2011-10-11].
AB: last week we discussed
Issue-21 http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/issues/21
and Issue-22 http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/issues/22
and Cathy's proposals to address the issues http://www.w3.org/2011/09/27-webevents-minutes.html#item05
... I believe we agreed that if no one expressed any concerns
that Cathy would submit a changeset based on her proposal
... Cathy isn't here today
… I don't know here status
AB: any comments on Cathy's proposal?
<scribe> ACTION: cathy to commit her proposals for Issue-21 and Issue-22 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/04-webevents-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-79 - Commit her proposals for Issue-21 and Issue-22 [on Cathy Chan - due 2011-10-11].
AB: Last week WAI's PFWG
submitted some comments
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011JulSep/0091.html
for the TE LC. I captured those as LC-6
http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/TouchEvents-LCWD-13-Sep-2011#LC-6
and LC-7
http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/TouchEvents-LCWD-13-Sep-2011#LC-7
... the first comment (LC-7) is about the need for additional
text re the relation between touch events and mouse events. And
LC-6 is a request for some editorial questions.
... I don't think there are any "Issues" per se but rather some
follow up actions to address the comments.
... has anyone read the comments from PFWG?
MB: not yet
AB: encourage everyone to followup on the mail list
… that is, respond to Michael Cooper's email
AB: we have a few actions related
to touch event testing Action-74, Action-66 and Action-72.
Earlier today Olli replied to his Action-74 http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/track/actions/74
via
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/0001.html
... I haven't looked at Olli's input
OP: I looked at what Matt had done
… and added some tests for multiple touches
… We will need a lot more tests
… But this is a start
… I can add some more later
AB: thanks very much!
OP: I am using Android
… and the default browser and it passes the tests
… The default browser on Android uses webkit
… The default browser and Opera browser both pass all of the tests I wrote
AB: that's really helpful
... Tran has Action-66: <Create multitouch test cases for
the Touch Events spec> that is blocked on Olli. Perhaps Tran
could review what Olli created.
DT: I did look at it this morning
… I will copy it and then expand on it
… and try to do something this week
AB: ok, that's great
... anything else on testing for today?
OP: once we have more tests for multitouch
… we should move them to W3C
… My tests are not in W3C space now
… But they need to move
AB: if you have any issues with that, Doug can help you (or perhaps me ;-)
AB: we will have a call next week
if there are sufficient topics
... encourage everyone to continue to use the Public mail
list
... anything else for today?
... meeting adjourned
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