<boris> also regrets from richard?

<Ashok> scribenick: juansequeda

<Ashok> scribe: Juan

PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/09/20-RDB2RDF-minutes.html

+1

RESOLUTION: minutes of the last meeting are accepted

Open Actions

ACTION-159?

<trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel

boris: ACTION-159 is still open
... I'm planning to work this week on this

Last Call

ashok: we have received several comments
... we have to acknowledge all of the comments
... think about them and resolve
... afterwards, we need to ask if whatever we end up doing is acceptable
... first thing to do is to acknowledge the comments

Can Souri, Seema and Juan reply with an acknowledgement

Souri: yes we can, but some emails present several comments together

ashok: we need to create separate issues
... souri, you update the editors draft?

souri: the editors draft content is the same as the last call

<Souri> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/r2rml/

ashok: I haven't seen any comment that is fundamental. Just typos and minor comments
... we can start talking about them next week
... who is going to be a tpac?

<Souri> It is unlikely that I'll be able to go to TPAC

juansequeda: still not sure

ericP: I won't be going
... Can non-WG members show up to the meeting?

ashok: I personally have no difficulty on that, but what usually happens?

<ericP> PROPOSED: that the F2F at TPAC be open to the public given space and notification

ericP: if there is a member-only list, then it's usually closed because people say things in a small room that they wouldn't say to the whole worlds. Otherwise, it's usually open

<ericP> APPROVED

<ericP> (tacitly)

<Seema> I won't be able to make it to TPAC

If no editors can attend, can we dial in?

<Souri> who else is certain and certainly-not?

<Ashok> Yes, I will get us a Zakim conference

ashok: I will get a zakim conference
... so people can dialin

<ericP> i am likely to be able to dial in

MacTed: I don't think anybody from Openlink will be able to attend f2f

Test cases

<boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/

boris: we have 15 database cases
... 15 direct mapping cases and 21 r2rml cases

<boris> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdb2rdf-tests

boris: currently all the test cases are in the repository
... I'm going to check the test cases that we have with the current version of r2rml and direct mapping
... and I'm going to include new testcases
... so I'll ask everybody to take a look at this next week

<scribe> ... new testcases for next telcon

ashok: this is going to be a critical thing when we want to get the standard approved.
... question: how do I tell if the test cases cover all the functionalities?

<Souri> coverage completeness

boris: for every part of the spec, we have to create a test?

ashok: more than that. we also need to demonstrate that

boris: I'll think about it

ashok: and we only need to cover our functionalities. We dont' need to test for example jdbc connection, etc
... another question to think about: if you have an implementation that pass all the test cases, how do we keep a record of that?

boris: we started to discuss this a while ago. some ideas are on the wiki

<boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/TestHarness

ericP: I can talk about testing in sparql
... we had a bunch of tests that we used in our discussion.
... and we organized the test cases
... anybody would have to consume the rdf, consume the test
... and return the results in a specific testing language

(ericP explaining how they did testing in SPARQL WG)

boris: I will propose new feature and send it to the mailing list

<boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations

Implementations

<Ashok> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations

ericP is implementing direct mapping (materialized and unmaterialized)

Morph, from UPM is implementing R2RML

OpenLink Virtuoso will be releasing R2RML implementation any time soon

Revelytix already has an implementation of R2RML and will be revamping with the latest changes this month

Ultrawrap has implemented Direct Mapping and R2RML and will be releasing soon

XSPARQL has implemented Direct Mapping and R2RML

Oracle is working on it but can't say much at the moment

ashok: anything else?

ericP: yes: datatype mappings

(ericP talking about how he dealt with datatypes in Direct Mapping, which was a bit different from R2RML spec)

ericP: advice on how to deal with datatype mappings?

ashok: I can look at that

<Souri> When we map from SQL, I thought the (virtually) generated data will all be in canonical form.

<ericP> Ashok, Eric Prud'hommeaux32-G628

Ashok

or somebody

can you generate the minutes?

<ericP> Ashok, Eric Prud'hommeaux/32-G628/32 Vassar St./Cambridge, MA 02140

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Succeeded: s/Nono/Nuno/
Succeeded: s/confrence/conference/
Found ScribeNick: juansequeda
Found Scribe: Juan
Present: David Juan Boris Ashok Seema Souri Nuno Eric Ted
Regrets: Michael Ivan Percy Marcelo Richard
Got date from IRC log name: 27 Sep 2011
Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2011/09/27-RDB2RDF-minutes.html
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