I can dial in if someone else wants to talk on the phone

though given who is present we can just do this on IRC

Item #1 bugs on approved tests

Bugzilla link -> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=HTML+WG&component=testsuite&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=inclu

We have no new bugs

Still need to hear back from plh about http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12896

Moving on to the next agenda item

Agenda Item #2 HTML5lib dat file format standardize for parser tests

I just dialed into the phone, with plh joining the conf call

<gsnedders> I am very vaguely around, but have been offline for the past week

We have had a few emails about html5lib parser tests and a good number of tests have been submitted

IE10 Platform Preview 2 has support for the HTML5 parser rules that are described in the HTML5 spec

Microsoft is intrested in submitting parser tests and it seems that we should standardize on using 'dat' files for all parser tests

This would change our approval requirements a bit - but should help given that the format seems to work fine for the task (testing the parser)

<gsnedders> The parser test data file format is documented at http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Parser_tests#Tree_Construction_Tests

jgraham I assume you are fine with this given you have submitted tests in this format

jgraham are you around?

<gsnedders> I believe he is on vacation

OK

<gsnedders> But certainly the general Opera view is we should use that format.

Good

I wanted to ask him (you may know) why we don't have the 'dat' files seperated from the html tests that he submitted

The tests look like the dat file was encoded and is embedded as a stream

scribe: in each test

Ideally we can re-use the dat file for multiple tests - e.g. one for document.write, one for innerhtml, etc..

<gsnedders> I don't know.

<gsnedders> jgraham did almost all the work for our HTML5 parser, not me.

We'll have to wait till he is back from vacation

The last agenda item is to note that we have a few more test submissions

If you look at the logs we have a new participant from Mozilla

see -> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html/rev/fa355c1c454f (Matheus Kerschbaum)

<plh> great

<plh> oh, but this is a Mochi test

<plh> he is not using testharness.js :-/

I'll send him an email on the list

with an example...so he doesn't create a bunch of tests in the wrong format

The David Barron created a few tests so in theory Mozilla is aware of the test format requirements

Note that Microsoft will be submitting some more HTMl5 tests for...

SCA (structured cloneing algorythm)

HTML5 Forms

HTML5 async

For HTML5 async we will need some help getting a php file added to the server (just to add a delay)

HTML5 Drag and Drop

and HTML5 Sandbox

These will all be in the normal test harness

The only exception will be in the drag and drop tests which need a person to perform the drag action with the mouse

<plh> http://www.w3.org/2011/08/browser-testing-charter.html

<plh> (so that people are aware of this here)

Let's adjorn - unless anyone has anything else to discuss

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