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Internationalization Core Working Group Teleconference

25 May 2011

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Addison_Phillips, David, kojiishi, Richard, Felix, matial
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips

Contents


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<trackbot> Date: 25 May 2011

<scribe> Scribe: Addison Phillips

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Minutes and Agenda review

Action Items

Talk with Bert about how to deal with change marks in Ruby spec

couple of weeks or so

Propose move of Ruby CSS spec to WD on agenda for CSS WG

ditto

Rewrite response with new proposal to do normalization in comparison

<scribe> done

Info Share

CSS3 Selectors and Normalization

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2011AprJun/0077.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2011AprJun/0079.html

http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-namespace/

Therefore, we would like to recommend that: CSS define normatively that "two selectors compare as equal if they are canonically equivalent Unicode strings", that is, that the comparison must be done as if one of the canonical Unicode Normalization Forms (either NFC or NFD) had been applied to both prior to the comparison. This does not require that identifiers be interned, normalized, or use any particular normalization form, only that the comparison occur b

<matial> LGTM

<scribe> chair: any objections to forwarding this and incorporating namespaces?

addison: need to deal with URI vs IRI issues in namespaces
... namespace might contain IDNA or non-ascii paths

felix: don't think they handle IDNA or non-ascii paths at all (they == xml namespace)
... any objections?

<fsasaki> no

<kojiishi> no

<r12a> no objection

<David> no

<scribe> ACTION: addison: forward revised normalization letter to CSS including information about namespaces [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-41 - Forward revised normalization letter to CSS including information about namespaces [on Addison Phillips - due 2011-06-01].

addison: need to do something about charmod, now out of date

http://www.w3.org/TR/charmod-norm/

addison: could touch charmod-norm... or put out a note that updates
... maybe a note "position paper"?

<scribe> ACTION: addison: create wiki page with normalization position paper [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-42 - Create wiki page with normalization position paper [on Addison Phillips - due 2011-06-01].

anyone can contribute to the wiki page... :-)

Contacts API, other last calls

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2011May/0008.html

<scribe> chair: anyone interested in taking lead to review contacts?

koji: cjk needs phonetic fields
... can't work on until after about 6 june

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/review-instructions

<scribe> ACTION: kojiishi: review Contacts API and collect last call comments for the WG. WG members to perform review. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - kojiishi

<scribe> ACTION: koji: review Contacts API and collect last call comments for the WG. WG members to perform review. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-43 - Review Contacts API and collect last call comments for the WG. WG members to perform review. [on Koji Ishii - due 2011-06-01].

richard: 10 weeks to make all last call comments starting, oh, today
... felix, did you raise bug about translate flag?

felix: issue raised from ITS IG. will post link

richard: WOFF folks need to hear from us soon.

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/1

<fsasaki> Issue raised by Jirka Kosek about "translate" flag: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12417

CSS3 Referring to Unicode, Unicode-range

addison: stale topic?

AOB?

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: create wiki page with normalization position paper [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: forward revised normalization letter to CSS including information about namespaces [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: koji: review Contacts API and collect last call comments for the WG. WG members to perform review. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: kojiishi: review Contacts API and collect last call comments for the WG. WG members to perform review. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
 
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Present: Addison_Phillips David kojiishi Richard Felix matial
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2011May/0010.html
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