<trackbot> Date: 09 May 2011

laczoka, use ??P1

<laczoka> thx

<laczoka> hi

<bblfish> zakim who is on the phone?

I need 5 minutes off, start without me please

<bblfish> who is on the phone?

<scribe> ScribeNick: Deiu

<gaedke> Still trying

brb (5 mins)

<jeffsayre> I'm running late. Will connect in 15 minutes....

<bergi> Zakim ??P21 is me

<bblfish> shall we start?

<bblfish> zakim who is making noise?

<bblfish> who wants to scribe?

<bblfish> scribe scor

<bblfish> http://www.w3.org/2011/05/02-webid-minutes.html

<domel> +1

<laczoka> +1

<bblfish> +!

<bblfish> +1

<bergi> +1

<bblfish> ACTION: accept paper [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-webid-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - accept

<bblfish> RESOLVED: Minutes accepted

<bblfish> member:Zakim, who is making noise?

<gaedke> * have to reboot

<bblfish> http://bblfish.net:8443/test/WebId

<scor> bblfish: suggests to have a page generated automatically for the implementations

<bblfish> curl -E cert.pem -H "Accept: text/rdf+n3" https://bblfish.net:8443/test/WebId

back

<scor> similar to the EARL test cases

<scor> tells whether your cert or WebID is valid or not

<laczoka> bblfish: what does EARL provided compare to a free-form text?

<scor> generate the list of implementations based on a list of WebID endpoints that people could register on the Wiki maybe

<scor> the script could also give real time status of what version of WebID is used on the Web

<gaedke> me

<gaedke> Thanks for all the helper ;-)

<scor> bergi wants to implement a servlet online to ease the testing process

<scor> bergi uses jUnit at the moment

<scor> bergi: test suite is not good for a flashy demo, so not so important for Berlin

http://www.w3.org/wiki/Foaf+ssl

<scor> the implementations page would list URIs of website which implement WebID, a list of platforms offering WebID, and a list of libraries for those interested in adding WebID in their platform

<bblfish> remind people to fill in this http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebID_Protocol_Implementations

<bblfish> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/wiki/User_Stories_and_Use_Cases

<bblfish> agendum next

<bblfish> new people ?

<laczoka> sorry

<laczoka> laczoka = laszlo

<bblfish> we allready talked about ISSUE-9: Develop WebID Test Suite

<laczoka> +1

<bblfish> +1

<bblfish> on closing action 27

+1

<bblfish> who has contributed papers?

I have

<domel> I have

<claudio> I have

<gaedke> We have

<scor> bblfish asking who is contributing a paper to the Berlin conf?

<scor> bblfish: what did claudio contribute?

<scor> claudio: position about plug and play scenarios for the social web

<scor> claudio: plug your laptop to the network and give the chance to ppl to choose to release some of their personal data, while being able to join a social network

<scor> claudio: your own machine could act a server in the network, and share your personal data with friends

<scor> claudio: open for discussions

<scor> claudio: link?

<scor> bblfish: worked with Deiu on a paper

http://fcns.eu/people/andrei/publications/webid/Friending_on_the_Social_Web.html

<scor> not directly related to WebID: about PingBack (FOAF based)

<scor> Friending is an important feature, strangely this has not happened yet in the FOAF world

<scor> bblfish: has not written a paper on WebID itself

<jeffsayre> +1

<scor> bblfish: should we take the browser paper and adapt it?

<bblfish> http://bblfish.net/tmp/2011/04/26/

<scor> jeffsayre: keep the 2 first sections more or less as it. twist: explain how and where WebID could be used

<scor> bblfish: have a demo. one page showing different WebID services (like pinging)

<melvster> there's data.fm too

<scor> jeffsayre: social ping as replacement for semantic ping

<bheitman> yes, thats the plan

<bheitman> +q

<gaedke> we need a secure foaf update protocol (SecFUP)... focussing on the protocol term not the social

<bblfish> it sounds like a hoovering behind you

<bheitman> okay, so the paper will be about how to achieve user profile portability using WebIDs, FOAF and RDF.

<scor> bblfish: re pingback. good to know what the salmon ppl are doing

<scor> bblfish: big problem with the paper domel wrote. needs to be restructured w/o the ontology

<scor> bblfish: WebID group is meeting on Friday morning

<scor> bblfish: and then an hour everyday

<bheitman> scor: what is the syntax for addressing the protocol when I am not the scribe ?

<scor> bblfish: there might be ppl from america who are thinking alone the lines of salmon etc.

<scor> bblfish: avoid talking about a new ontology. talk about use cases rather

bheitman, keep writing, everything gets logged anyway :-)

<scor> bblfish: use cases for ontologies. lots of work being done on foaf-protocols, not sure what ontology is best

<gaedke> http://ii.uwb.edu.pl/~dtomaszuk/WebIDACO.pdf

<bheitman> my paper will be based very closely on a previous version. If anybody wants to look at the PDF of that previous version, it is here: http://the-blank.net/contains/benjamin/files/Privacy-Enabled_User_Profile_Portability.pdf

<bheitman> -q

<domel> or https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Xs83bNMc5Hb1Eqq_JIpuzQGVCEXWkrKxYarrLfmP3c/edit?hl=pl&authkey=CISb5K8E#

<scor> bblfish: anyone here from the access control group?

<bblfish> this one: http :/ / www . w 3 . org / ns / auth / ac l

<scor> bblfish: if there is anyone from the ACL group, hopefully we can talk in Berlin

<scor> bblfish: clerezza/java does not have a very friendly ACL mechanism, if the ACL ontology was available, it would be easier

<osacco> might be of interest to anyone: we have been working on a privacy preference ontology (PPO) which is based on top of WAC http://events.linkeddata.org/ldow2011/papers/ldow2011-paper01-sacco.pdf

<scor> bblfish: not much time left, but would be good someone wanted to adapt the browser paper to submit for Berlin

<claudio> have to go

<claudio> regards

<bblfish> thanks everybody

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