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RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference

16 Nov 2010

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
Ashok_Malhotra, +35385271aaaa, +49.153.6.aabb, +1.781.273.aacc, +3539149aadd, MacTed, EricP, boris, aaaa, juansequeda, Alexandre
Regrets
Richard, Harry, Souri, Seema, Marcelo
Chair
Michael
Scribe
ericP

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 16 November 2010

<scribe> scribe: ericP

<MacTed> scribenick: ericP

admin

<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting, see http://www.w3.org/2010/11/09-rdb2rdf-minutes.html

<boris> +1

<betehess> +1

APPROVED: Accept the minutes of last meeting, see http://www.w3.org/2010/11/09-rdb2rdf-minutes.html

<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/status/2010/

<betehess> mhausenblas++ for his slides

rdb2rdf slide deck

mhausenblas: useful for introduction to RD2RDF
... would like feedback

<juansequeda> great slides mhausenblas!

Ashok: do you plan to speak in some venue?

mhausenblas: no concrete plans

Ashok: we should tell folks what's going on

mhausenblas: my current disemination campaign is mostly via f2f or twitter
... i think this is most relevent to industrial events
... would like to engage potential clients of our technology

ashok: this should enable everyone in the group to present

juansequeda: what about proposing a slot at SemTech?

mhausenblas: sounds like a good job for juansequeda

<scribe> ACTION: juansequeda to compile a list of speaking/panel opportunities for diseminating rdb2rdf work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/11/16-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - juansequeda

<juansequeda> jsequeda

<scribe> ACTION: juan to compile a list of speaking/panel opportunities for diseminating rdb2rdf work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/11/16-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-79 - Compile a list of speaking/panel opportunities for diseminating rdb2rdf work [on Juan Sequeda - due 2010-11-23].

<mhausenblas> public-rdb2rdf-comments@w3.org

public comments list

<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

mhausenblas: this is the forum for public feedback (public not allowed to post to the WG list)
... folks should subscribe
... the SPARQL WG has integrated this into their formal process
... this gets more critical as we approach last call

<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/

mhausenblas: if you see issues there, please enter them in the issue tracker
... in particular, if you are responsible for a particular area

<MacTed> argh. that's very unfortunate.

<Zakim> ericP, you wanted to talk about LC

<juansequeda> For those who did not know: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-comments/

<boris> thanks Juan

<mhausenblas> ISSUE-5 needs to be addressed

ericP: WGs are responsible for the disposition of comments before the transition from Last Call to Candidate Rec

ashok: is it typical to use bugzilla?

<juansequeda> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directMapping/

ericP: hard to charactarize "typical", but WG's tend to create issues noted on the mailing list, and respond to commenters with links to created issue

FPWD of Direct Mapping

Ashok: have folks read this? is it ready for publication?

mhausenblas: editors are in the wrong order
... not sure if all issues in the document are in the issue tracker

juansequeda: i think Sec 3,4,5 should be the same section

<betehess> if we start to do last minute changes on the document, I can tell you we won't publish

<Ashok> Yes, I agree

<MacTed> for speed sake, could just add the heading with TBD as body?

juansequeda: if we have 2.5 hierarchical tables, then i'd like to add 2.6 many-to-many

<betehess> +1 to ashok's "very small changes"

<betehess> I've seen some TODO in other FPWD, I guess it's ok there too

mhausenblas: s/very simple direct mapping/direct mapping/

Ashok: +1

mhausenblas: should we have a reference to r2rml?

ericP: from a document modularity perspective, no

betehess: would be like xml ref to xhtml

mhausenblas: i see there's already a ref in the intro

nunolopes: rule 23 is odd

ericP: on it...

<juansequeda> Text for Section 4.3: "In this section we will define the rules to generate reference triples. The different cases include when a foreign key references a single-column or multi-column primary key of another table and when a foreign key references a single-column or multi-column candidate key of another table which may or may not have a primary key."

<betehess> http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/techs.rdf

betehess: we need a short description of where this spec fits with others

<betehess> for example:

<betehess> http://www.w3.org/standards/history/r2rml

<betehess> http://www.w3.org/standards/techs/rdfrel.html#w3c_all

<Ashok> rdb-direct-mapping looks good

<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: publish ED at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directMapping/ as FPWD under short name rdb-direct-mapping

<betehess> I need you to say rdb-direct-mapping belongs to the rdfrel group

<betehess> like r2rml

<boris> don't worry ...

<betehess> PROPOSAL: publish ED at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directMapping/ as FPWD under short name rdb-direct-mapping, under rdfrel in http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/techs.rdf, with the short description being the abstract

<mhausenblas> +1

<betehess> +1

<nunolopes> +1

+1

<boris> +1

<juansequeda> +1

<Ashok> +1

<MacTed> +1

RESOLUTION: publish ED at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directMapping/ as FPWD under short name rdb-direct-mapping, under rdfrel in http://www.w3.org/2002/01/tr-automation/techs.rdf, with the short description being the abstract

mhausenblas: from here, ericP and i will deal with pubrules

juansequeda: so we started on r2rml, then direct mapping, next test cases, then we iterate?

Ashok: we can work in parallel

<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/r2rml/FPWD-rdb2rdf-r2rml/

Ashok: from now we need to use the dated versions

<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directMapping/FPWD-rdb-direct-mapping/

<Zakim> betehess, you wanted to help about the process + advice

ericP: we have the option of staging this in the rdb2rdf directory. do we want that?

betehess: i'm ok with eric skipping the staged document

<scribe> ACTION: ericP to notify WG when the editor's draft is not frozen for publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/11/16-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - ericP

<scribe> ACTION: eric to notify WG when the editor's draft is not frozen for publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/11/16-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-80 - Notify WG when the editor's draft is not frozen for publication [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2010-11-23].

<mhausenblas> Michael: fine with direct TR space

ADJOURNED

<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/R2RML_Test_Cases

<boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/R2RML_Test_Cases

<boris> this first round of TC only have simple test cases

<mhausenblas> thanks a lot for scribing (and editing in parallel) ericP !

<mhausenblas> you're the man

<mhausenblas> trackbot, end telecon

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: eric to notify WG when the editor's draft is not frozen for publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/11/16-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: ericP to notify WG when the editor's draft is not frozen for publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/11/16-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: juan to compile a list of speaking/panel opportunities for diseminating rdb2rdf work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/11/16-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: juansequeda to compile a list of speaking/panel opportunities for diseminating rdb2rdf work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/11/16-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action01]
 
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Default Present: Ashok_Malhotra, +35385271aaaa, +49.153.6.aabb, +1.781.273.aacc, +3539149aadd, MacTed, EricP, boris, aaaa, juansequeda, Alexandre
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Regrets: Richard Harry Souri Seema Marcelo
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