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<laurent_lefort_cs> ScribeNick: arthur
round table with everyone to see how we are going to use/maintain the SSN ontology further
<laurent_lefort_cs> Andriy : It is important to put it somewhere. My project has different
<laurent_lefort_cs> K: Sourceforge rather than W3C - because it would open
<krzysztof_j> summary: put it online at sourceforge, make it available, use the sourceforge infrastructure, continue to work on it and keep it alive)
<krzysztof_j> laurent: yes, you are right, not everybody - but the people who are responsible
Luis: It is imortant to maintain the ontolgy further and to have a maintainer
<krp> ok, thanks
Laurent: It can be continued it by using the mailing list, which will stay open
Somebody proposed to use sourceforge
Laurent: opening the group to more people to benefit of the W3C groups work
<krzysztof_j> I agree with luis!
<krzysztof_j> (we can still have release managers responsible for the stable versions)
Laurent: stability and closeness to other organisations (OGC,...) is ipmortant
Laurent: Is there some community to maintain the different use cases in the future?
<krzysztof_j> (@arthur: the ontology as such should be free of a use case, these should be added on the level of application ontologies)
Laurent: shall the ontology be freezed at the end of the SSNXG and the further developenent continued somewhere else?
Michael: need some kind of checkpointing/versioning of the ontology
<krzysztof_j> (for instance, I am not a W3C member)
Laurent: How and where to host the further developement?
<krp> that is, after a transition period
<krp> where the XG deliverable version lives, or where following versions live?
<krp> (won't the deliverable version be perfect anyway? :) )
Laurent: How many people here are going to continue working on the ontology?
<krp> So do you mean dissemination activities to other bodies like OGC?
<krzysztof_j> (the OGC is aware of our work)
<krp> Or input on incorporating the ontology into future OGC standard?
<krp> oh, sorry, geosparql
Luis: Shall we provide SPARQL kind of interface to the SSN ontology to open the work to the OGC?
Arthur: what possibilities do exist to keep maintaning of the SSN ontolgy inside the W3C?
Laurent: 1st possibility: continue developement inside a working group
Laurent: 2nd possibility: ontology being maintained by an external party, which complies with the protocols of the W3C. The ontolgy would still be hosted by the W3C.
<krp> +1 - build the experience and momentum, then take it for further standardisation if desired
<krzysztof_j> hmm, 99,999% of the SW is not OGC but very interested in the semantic sensor web
krzystof_j: Doesn't want to take the developement of the ontolgy out of W3C, but make it more open also for non W3C people to participate in the work.
<krp> and there are other people working with sensors in the lab here affiliated in with other projects, who are potential users of the ontology
<krp> (I think the line has dropped for me - ok for everyone else?)
<michael> fine fore me
<Payam> fine for me also- I use Skype
<krp> Line dropped, and now can't get into conference room as we're over time.
<krzysztof_j> thanks laurent, by
<Payam> thanks and bye
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