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<scribe> scribe: wbailer
http://www.w3.org/2010/02/23-mediaann-minutes.html
http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediaann-minutes.html
daniel did not participate on 2nd of F2F, any comments from thierry?
thierry: 2nd day was spec editing
(api and ontology doc)
... need to see minutes
daniel: 1st day was on review and
cleanup of ontology and api doc
... publication of revised versions in progress
thierry: publication later today
<pchampin> I volunteer
<pchampin> for next week
florian and pchampin volunteer
daniel will be added to queue
next tuesday (mar 16th)
vienna, april 26-28
werner to add more info to wiki
dates confirmed
who plans to participate?
<tmichel> I may not be able to participate
florian: +1
<pchampin> Unfortunately, I will be in transit btw Ireland and France at that time...
<daniel> +1 for participation
<wonsuk> I will participate during three days
<bmarks> sorry phone problems
<bmarks> probably won't participate
thierry: switch to summer time on
mar 14 in us and on mar 28 in europe
... telecon one hour earlier in that period
<tmichel> therefore between mar 14 and mar 28 the teleconferences will be *one hour earlier*
<tmichel> I can't hear anything, I will call back
<tmichel> one hour earlier for non US. (Eurpe and Asia)
action-42 continues
action-124 (felix not here)
a number of open action for david singer (postponed)
action-189 (tobias not here)
action-208 pa read the document
scribe: methodology targets specs
that define behaviour of an agent/client
... not sure if it applies to us
... targets turning natural language into testable
requirements
... our spec has a lot of info in the mapping table whcih is
already quite formal
action-209 ongoing
close action-211
<trackbot> ACTION-211 Formulate a text regarding the client-server picture closed
action-210 (joakim not here)
action-212, 213 kept open
action-214 kept open, to be done after last call
action-215 keep open until updated
action-216...220 kept open
both ontology and api doc to be published
<tmichel> no I am on Zakim
wonsuk: need to decide about
publication of lc
... proposed date: after AC meeting
daniel: thierry, criteria for
going to last call?
... at f2f we decided to have reviews from outside the group
before going to lc
... eg tag, webapp, mfwg
<tobias> ??P8 is me
thierry: one we go to lc, we must
stay in lc for 4 weeks
... should we publish before f2f in order to discuss
comments
... seems not to be possible, likely to publish after ac
meeting
daniel: we can feedback when
updated draft is avialable today
... we can updated based on feedback
... and decide in wg when we are ready to go to lc
<tobias> @daniel: I just wanted to mention that I will come to the F2F meeting in Vienna.
bennett: same discussion in
metadata working group
... bennett marks from nokia, involved in metadata working
group (mwg)
... mwg is industry consortium dealing with embedded metadata
in consumer apps
... found it important in mwg to separate location created and
shown
daniel: felix send info about geolocation wg
bennett: mwg based on iptc notion of these properties
mail from bennett: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Mar/0008.html
bennett: most standards had to
deal with this issue, and separated these notions
... (1) ma:location should be location created
... (2) if we add property about content location, we might
need controlled vocabulary to make it useful
pchampin: content location might be fictional
wonsuk: agrees with bennett
... when we decided core property, we considered how many
formats supported a property
... we should check how many formats support depicted
location
bennett: supported in iptc, exif,
and probably many others
... in a number of cases the semantics were not clear
... even in iptc it's only clarified in the most recent
revision
pchampin: we agree that
ma:location is about creation location
... we propose content location at the moment
... raises question if we should rename ma:location to make it
semantically clearer
... add content location as subproperty of ma:location
... proposes to keep them separate, as creation location is
well defined, while content location is more fuzzy#
<bmarks> +1
daniel: we need more discussion on the mailing list
<scribe> ACTION: bennett to check how many standards support content location [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-221 - Check how many standards support content location [on Bennett Marks - due 2010-03-16].
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/WD/MPEG7.html
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/WD/SMTPD.html
<scribe> ACTION: soohong to send mail to list about adding syntactic mappings [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-222 - Send mail to list about adding syntactic mappings [on Soohong Daniel Park - due 2010-03-16].
several members are working on implementations
joakim, felix, wonsuk, chris are able to contribute to test suite
daniel proposes to have small team for test suite development
<florian> tobias, werner and i are also working on an implementation
daniel got acknowledgements from joakim, felix, wonsuk, chris to work on initial draft of test suite document
florian would like to join, schedule on implementation depends on availability of student
daniel to propose team and schedule until next telecon
<scribe> ACTION: daniel to check for overlap between html5 and mawg issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - daniel
<scribe> ACTION: soohong to check for overlap between html5 and mawg issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-223 - Check for overlap between html5 and mawg issues [on Soohong Daniel Park - due 2010-03-16].
<pchampin> bye
[ajourned]
<tobias> bye
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