<scribe> scribe: Andi

HTML mapping

SF: all HTML roles can have events attached to them - have been too conservative in thinking
... ARIA adds sense to AT developers for what the developer is trying to change the HTML element into

CS: so want to allow ARIA to override more native semantics

SF: since HTML allows anything to be turned into a widget, ARIA job is to help them do that in a way that makes sense to AT

CS: HTML used to have a requirement that elements only be used in the way that is semantically correct but that was removed because it's not machine testable
... couple of different use cases
... first, legacy HTML that no one will rewrite. Adding ARIA is the right thing to do
... second, new content - should use native semantics to the extent that it's possible, then add ARIA where necessary
... could this be added to validation tools?

SF: find those things that would absolutely be meaningless and flag those
... have had native check boxes and radio buttons for a long time but people continue to want to build them using non-native ways because they don't like how the native ones look
... don't think there is a use case for role=heading in HTML

CS: but there could be in other languages

SF: how do we come up with a rule for strong vs. weak semantics that accommodates both the heading case (where native semantics should not be overridden) ...
... ... and check boxes and radio buttons where there are good reasons to override them
... can look at specific examples make a judgement but don't have a clear understanding of what the overall principle should be

CS: to bring to HTML WG, we need to have a good general rule

SF: won't have a lot of time in the next two weeks
... will update the matrix - important to document where HTML and ARIA overlap

CS: asks SF to think about how others can help

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7041

http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/

Bugs

AS: suggest everybody commit to do 3 specific bugs for next week

Andi: 7018, 7020, 7182

Cynthia: 7016, 7064, 7119

David: 7022, 6888, 7118

Additional action for next week: everybody review their bugs and come to the meeting prepared to sign of for three specific bugs for the following week.

scribe: including at least one of the more time consuming bugs

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