W3C

SWD WG

11 Aug 2009

Agenda

See also: IRC log, previous 2009-07-07

Attendees

Present
Ralph Swick, Tom Baker, Diego Berrueta, Guus Schreiber, Antoine Isaac, Sean Bechofer, Ed Summers
Regrets
Alistair Miles
Chair
Guus
Scribe
Antoine

Contents


Admin

RESOLUTION: accept the minutes of last telecon

SKOS

Guus: what's the status on the language label issues?

Antoine: none of the solutions we proposed was judged acceptable by the I18N Group, per Felix Sasaki
... so long as the examples continued to use private language subtags
... the I18N Group is very reluctant to permit private language subtags

<Guus> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Aug/0001.html

<Guus> proposed resolution

Antoine: the last resolution [from 7 July] we proposed to was to modify the examples to be syntactically correct
... to modify the examples and add a warning that that use may not correspond to BCP
... but the I18N folk did not accept that proposal

Guus: I'm happy with that

Sean: I'm happy to go with Alistair's suggestion

Tom: I also agree

<Ralph> discussion of symbolic labels

Ralph: I'm ok with dropping it
... maybe we should hear from Margherita first
... There was a desire to use an appropriate mechanism for this
... if we remove the section from the spec we might frustrate these people who were counting on using this.

Guus: I see five vocabularies that use notations
... in the implementation report

Ralph: the mail from Margherita in January last year

<Ralph> Margherita's comments on symbolic labels (see 'section 4.4')

<Ralph> does AGROVOC use this private language mechanism?

Ed: I remember this was before we had SKOS-XL on the table
... SKOS-XL might alleviate some of the problems

Ralph: +1

<Ralph> delete from "Usually a notation system does not have ..." through the end of Example 22.

<TomB> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jul/0026.html - "move in your current time schedule to Recommendation"

<Ralph> original comment from I18N Core

Guus: PROPOSED to resolve ISSUE-224 by deleting the final paragraph of section 6.5.4 (from "Usually a notation system does not have...") and example 22

<Ralph> +1

<edsu> +1

RESOLVED to resolve ISSUE-224 by deleting the final paragraph of section 6.5.4 (from "Usually a notation system does not have...") and example 22

ACTION: Alistair to respond to Felix and implement the changes resulting from our resolution to ISSUE-224 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/11-swd-minutes.html#action01]

Guus: consider timing w.r.t. Recommendation
... I saw some reference to 18 August

Ralph: we ought to have a formal acceptance from I18N Core WG that they accept our resolution

Guus: there's a practical question as the Primer needs small updates too

Ed and Antoine: ok for 18 august

ACTION: Ed and Antoine to provide before 17 august a pointer to the latest version [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/11-swd-minutes.html#action02]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jul/0022.html

Is a list of editorial changes to respond editorial comments from Daniel Barclay

<Ralph> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jul/0001.html

There's consensus on the mail from Elliott Rusty Harold

scribe: to keep to the singular of "note"

ACTION: Antoine to send an answer to Elliott's mail [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/11-swd-minutes.html#action03]

There was another mail from Daniel Barclay

<Ralph> ISSUE-226

ACTION: Antoine to respond to Daniel Barclay's mail by the mail in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jul/0022.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/11-swd-minutes.html#action04]

<Ralph> SKOS Use Cases and Requirements

<TomB> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0109.html

<TomB> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/usecases/ucr-20090428.html

<Ralph> 28 April SKOS UCR Editor's Draft

ACTION: 2009-05-19: SWD WG to identify final version of Use Cases. [DONE]

<scribe> -- DONE : http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/usecases/ucr-20090428.html

ACTION: Ralph to publish the UC document as a group note at the time of recommendation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/11-swd-minutes.html#action05]

Tom: should we publish the implementation report?

Guus: it's not part of our delivrables

Sean: shall I remove the request for comments?

Guus: yes

ACTION: Sean to update the implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/11-swd-minutes.html#action06]

<Ralph> specifically, the updates are to put a date of publication

Tom: what happened with the re-map from the mapping spec?

<Ralph> redirections

Tom: it is currently done

ACTION: Ralph publish Antoine's new intermediate pages for legacy specs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11] [DONE]

AOB

Guus: proposal: final proposal on august 25
... mainly to discuss SKOS community aspects

<TomB> +1 to meet on 25 August

Guus: so this should be our last telecon

ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]

if no progress till next time, it will be dropped

<TomB> http://www.w3.org/2009/07/07-swd-minutes.html#item03

ACTION: Ralph to publish http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ as a WG Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES]

Guus: meeting adjourned

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Alistair to respond to Felix and implement the changes resulting from our resolution to ISSUE-224 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/11-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Antoine to respond to Daniel Barclay's mail by the mail in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jul/0022.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/11-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Antoine to send an answer to Elliott's mail [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/11-swd-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Ed and Antoine to provide before 17 august a pointer to the latest version [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/11-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Ralph to publish the UC document as a group note at the time of recommendation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/11-swd-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Sean to update the implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/11-swd-minutes.html#action06]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to publish http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ as a WG Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action07]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Ralph publish Antoine's new intermediate pages for legacy specs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11]
 
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