W3C

Semantic Web Deployment Working Group

07 Jul 2009

Agenda

See also: IRC log, previous 2009-06-02, 2009-06-23

Attendees

Present
Ralph Swick, Tom Baker, Jon Phipps, Ed Summers, Guus Schreiber
Regrets
Sean Bechhofer, Antoine Isaac, Diego Berrueta
Chair
Tom
Scribe
Ralph

Contents


SKOS collaterals

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph publish Antoine's new intermediate pages for legacy specs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11]

SKOS community after after SWD

Ralph: Ivan has submitted a proposal for support of community fora for SKOS and RDFa
... may know general feeling on that proposal by next telecon (2 weeks)

RDFa

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]

ACTION: [DONE] Ralph to raise issue-214 with RDFa TF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]

Ralph: not sure about discussion of issue 214

Ed: what will be the impact of the announcement of XHTML2 WG charter non-renewal past December?

Ralph: in the near term, nothing substantive needs to change, other than the taskforce won't have a charter past September, the RDFa Task Force has achieved its mission. they clearly need a different charter past the end of September. It's part of a proposal that Ivan submitted yesterday to provide wiki/mailing lists for this kind of work. The message from Tim is pretty clear that we're going to invest more resources in the HTML WG, We've committed in the faq to having the discussion about a distributed extension mechanism for HTML at the Technical Plenary in November.

-> Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) about the future of XHTML

(see the bits about RDFa in particular)

Best Practice Recipes for Publishing RDF Vocabularies

PROPOSED to publish update of Recipes WG Note:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0017.html

-- Editor's Draft 7 April 2009 http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ moved into W3C space?

Ralph: I believe we had already resolved that and I have an action

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph to publish http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ as a WG Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action07]

ACTION: [DONE] Ralph to move current ED of the RDFa metadata note from wiki to WG space [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action10]

-> RDFa Metadata editor's draft copied out of wiki

-> Adding Metadata to W3C Technical Reports Editor's Draft

SKOS

-> ISSUE-224

Guus: problem that this comment came during Proposed Rec review
... if we have some local patches, what are the implication?

Ralph: we can make editorial changes to examples

Guus: looking at 6.5.4 ... it's the use of chemical symbol notation
... I see the syntactic problem with the long language tag
... I don't see the problem with chemical symbol notation
... that's just a datatype

-> 6.5.4. Notations and Preferred Labels

Ralph: use of chemical symbols as "language" may simply be a difference of opinion on principle

Tom: I like the suggestion to resolve by adding a disclaimer pointing people to BCP 47 and saying this is an area where best practice might be evolving

Guus: and people might want to consult this space before deciding on a solution
... Alistair is more familiar with language issues than either Sean or I; he may know what to say

Ralph: is Alistair reachable again?

Tom: yes

-> [SKOS] Re: ISSUE-224 [Ralph]

[[
I would recommend instead that we offer to (a) modify the
example(s) to be syntactically conformant and (b) offer to add
a phrase such as "note that such use of private subtags to
transmit data unrelated to language or language choice may
violate BCP 47".
]]

Guus: let's ask Alistair and Sean for their agreement to this
... we can resolve here that we find Ralph's proposal acceptable contingent upon Sean and Alistair's agreement

PROPOSE: We (a) modify the example(s) in 6.5.4 to be syntactically conformant to BCP 47 and (b) offer to add a phrase such as "note that such use of private subtags to transmit data unrelated to language or language choice may violate BCP 47" contingent on Alistair and Sean's agreeing

Tom: ok

<edsu> +1

Jon: ok

Guus: ok

RESOLUTION: We (a) modify the example(s) in 6.5.4 to be syntactically conformant to BCP 47 and (b) offer to add a phrase such as "note that such use of private subtags to transmit data unrelated to language or language choice may violate BCP 47" contingent on Alistair and Sean's agreeing

Tom: so editors would write a phrase and offer it to I18N Core?

Ralph: yes

Guus: timing might be tricky
... I'll be away a lot after next week

-> Antoine's offer

Guus: let's resolve to fix the editorial change in ISSUE-225

Tom: Sean and I discussed this and I think the singular form is correct

Guus: but we need to respond to the comment

Tom: Sean and I were in agreement that the singular "note" is correct, but I prefer to leave it to him to reply to the comment

PROPOSE: Sean to decide on issue-225

RESOLUTION: Sean to decide on issue-225

SKOS Testimonials

Guus: I have a number of actions on testimonials
... I've asked Antoine to help and he's already done some work

next meeting

Tom: I'm unavailable in 2 weeks
... propose 4 August

Guus: I'm out 4 August but available on 11 August

Tom: let's work on a press release before you leave
... before 18 July
... let's try 3-way mail with Ivan in the next 10 days

<GuusS> as an aside: minutes of "publishing vocabs" meeting during Dagstuhl workshop:

<GuusS> http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-swdag2009-minutes.html

<GuusS> proposal is to publish a white paper, to be edited in ESW wiki

<GuusS> I have the action to see whether this group, in particular TOM, wants to contribute

<GuusS> i have to leave anyway, I hope we covered all

<Ralph> I think so, I'm proposing that you, Tom, Ivan coordinate via email

<GuusS> ok

<GuusS> have a good holiday (I hope you will get some)

<TomB> Guusl, next call on 11 Aug?

next meeting: 11 August, Guus to chair

<GuusS> ok

[adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

[PENDING] ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph publish Antoine's new intermediate pages for legacy specs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to publish http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ as a WG Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action07]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Ralph to move current ED of the RDFa metadata note from wiki to WG space [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action10]
[DONE] ACTION: Ralph to raise issue-214 with RDFa TF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]
 
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