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<scribe> scribe: John_Boyer
Charlie: Last chance to get any
SMIL updates from Jack is coming up soon.
... Would like to show the SMIL work as part of the
demonstration to show cross component coordination
... Interesting stuff we can do in the help panel, but needs a
little more wiring work. Could do the SMIL app as standalone,
but would be better on wiring
... Charter ends Oct. 8, and XG's seem to have their reports
done by when their charters end
<wiecha> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-app-backplane/2009Aug/0002.html
Charlie: Mark Birbeck completed
the invited expert questionnaire, and it got approved by W3
mgmt, so he is now able to participate as a co-author
... Hope to get a first draft out by next week
... two main parts to write about. 1) extending browser
infrastructure to better support ubiquity-like libraries
... Uli pointed out that we should not skip XML events
here
... Section 3.2 discusses how the extensibility is being done
now, not necessarily completely incompatibly, but also not by
any means in the same way.
... Would be better to have a common approach to this
extensibility.
... TPAC is going to talk about extensibility in HTML5. This
report will be providing use cases and background on current
techniques
... Section 4 is application patterns discussion
... How do we get back to some of the richness we had in the
"old" client/server days that we would like to now get "on the
web"
... Capabilities that haven't even resurfaced yet in the likes
of Dojo
... Also want to deal with richness of heterogeneous markup
formats
... deal with their composability
John: Truly minor point, may want to make the patterns the "top level" points in section 4, not subordinate to the examples
Charlie: agree
... This section's patterns is how/why this XG got
started
... How do we want to organize this, and does anyone want to
write a piece?
... Other XGs have produced reports from 5 pages to 40 pages.
How much do we want to say?
Steven: Who is this targetted at
and what do we want to achieve?
... I think the answer is that it is aimed at the AC
... And I think we want an extension to push this further
Charlie: It's also targetted at the HTML5 extensibility discussion
<Steven> brb
Charlie: That the AC will have at the TPAC
John: I think we should go with iterative deepening; don't go into gory details until necessary.
<Steven> back
John: For example, I was looking even at the outline and thinking that Section 4 on app patterns should precede the infrastructure discussion
Charlie: Yes, that order makes
for a crisper read. I like that
... The even deeper drill-down into implementations could be
done in appendices
... Any volunteers to write some of this?
Steven: I should have a bit of time
Charlie: I'll take a first draft at the parts that make sense for me, then pass Steven the token
meeting adjourns
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