MW4D IG Teleconference

10 Aug 2009


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Stephane Boyera (W3C), Lauri Hirvonen (Nokia), Raphael Dard (Intracen), Adesina Iluyemi (Invited Expert), Mira Slavova (Invited Expert)
Chair: Stephane




Approval of last week minutes

<steph> http://www.w3.org/2009/08/03-mw4d-minutes.html

Lauri proposes approval

<steph> approved

<Adesna> approved

seconded by 3


<MiraS> approved

Review of action items

<steph> stephane to update the roadmap and the issue 5 in the discussion

<steph> doc about accessibility

<steph> [DONE]

<steph> steph to contact mike best

<steph> [PENDING]

I can contact Mike Best if you wish

OK, I take this action.

For feedback and/or to join our group

Discussion on roadmap

steph: wishes to accelerate the release of the roadmap

more than a year on and we need to share content with the community

in order to receive feedback

Event coming end of Sept. Steph shared info on it via the mailing list

steph: read the doc and provide feedback

some people write private feedback but Steph would prefer to have them shared with all the group

so we can build concensus

Raphael to do the glossary

Lauri mentions that the doc date has not changed, but the content has

Mira offers help for reviewing and editing

Steph: OK for helping on this

<steph> http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/roadmapv2-discussion#technologie

Adesina: are we focusing on mobile phones only?

are we including tech such as WiMax?

<Adesna> other devices lke PDA,

Steph: gives the background why certain technological choices were made for the roadmap content

<Adesna> ok

Steph: not in favor of looking at all technologies in this document, but open to discuss it, including today

Mira: brought the issue of WiMax due to cost for the end users

Steph: started to draft the cost section and it may be extended

Lauri: shares what Steph said, that we should focus on what has been done and not what could be done

we should look at practical applications

Adesina: GSM coverage is often very poor in rural villages while wifi does a good job in giving access to ICTs

<Adesna> Yes

Adesina, do you have examples at hand? for wifi/wimax usage, well documented?

in rural villages

Lauri: we focused, from the beginning on mobile applications and GSM

wifi is often only the "last mile"

Adesina: wifi provides access, for end-users, to ITCs and therefore should be considered

Mira: the problem comes from the definition of mobility

<Adesna> The focus here is access to information to end-users over mobile/wireless platforms

<Adesna> There are wifi-mobile phones though not widely available

Steph: the discussion on wifi/wimax technology does not seem relevant to our work. We should focus on communities' need in content, the underlying technology is not really the problem

the available bandwidth is of interest, not the channels, here

Adesina: fears that the roadmap is too focused on GSM technologies

<Adesna> Agreed


<MiraS> I agree

Lauri: we said we should focus on widely available technologies

we should focus on the "small screen" devices

<Adesna> ok then

<Adesna> agreed

<MiraS> ok

<Adesna> agreed

OK with me

<Lauri> OK for Lauri

<MiraS> agreed

Steph: Discussion on the Technologies Section

Huge range of applications and potential technologies. Scope very broad. Need to reduce it.

<Adesna> I agree with Raphael

I think we should take the opportunity of this road map to give an overview of what technologies exist, are used for applications for development, and make sense

lot's of initiatives are taking place, the hard work is to go through them all and do the synthesis

in a couple of pages

Steph: should we go with other technologies or remain with the 3 main ones proposed

Lauri: we need to also consider the application coverage objective, to better guide roadmap readers/users

i.e. nation-wide application in Finland for tsunami alert

<Adesna> Like Frontline SMS?

Steph, I think that the three initial domains are good to start with

we can see if we need more later


<MiraS> I agree to keeping the 3 main groups. I think USSD deserves a mention under the "signalling" title.

<MiraS> We could probably include examples without making it comprehensive.

steph ??

<steph> sorry i got disconnected

<steph> don't what hapenned but i can't rejoin


we'll close

<steph> sorry about that

<Adesna> Sorry, I have to go

<steph> so in order to to feed the discussion for next week

<Adesna> I am still on

<Lauri> Lauri explained the difference of several Mobile technologies with example of gas station price information database

<steph> i will focus on

<Adesna> Ltes ken ands steph take care of it

<steph> developing the section 7

<Lauri> bye


<MiraS> -Mira


Summary of Action Items

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