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<steph> http://www.w3.org/2009/08/03-mw4d-minutes.html
Lauri proposes approval
<steph> approved
<Adesna> approved
seconded by 3
<MiraS> approved
<steph> stephane to update the roadmap and the issue 5 in the discussion
<steph> doc about accessibility
<steph> [DONE]
<steph> steph to contact mike best
<steph> [PENDING]
I can contact Mike Best if you wish
OK, I take this action.
For feedback and/or to join our group
steph: wishes to accelerate the release of the roadmap
more than a year on and we need to share content with the community
in order to receive feedback
Event coming end of Sept. Steph shared info on it via the mailing list
steph: read the doc and provide feedback
some people write private feedback but Steph would prefer to have them shared with all the group
so we can build concensus
Raphael to do the glossary
Lauri mentions that the doc date has not changed, but the content has
Mira offers help for reviewing and editing
Steph: OK for helping on this
<steph> http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/roadmapv2-discussion#technologie
Adesina: are we focusing on mobile phones only?
are we including tech such as WiMax?
<Adesna> other devices lke PDA,
Steph: gives the background why certain technological choices were made for the roadmap content
<Adesna> ok
Steph: not in favor of looking at all technologies in this document, but open to discuss it, including today
Mira: brought the issue of WiMax due to cost for the end users
Steph: started to draft the cost section and it may be extended
Lauri: shares what Steph said, that we should focus on what has been done and not what could be done
we should look at practical applications
Adesina: GSM coverage is often very poor in rural villages while wifi does a good job in giving access to ICTs
<Adesna> Yes
Adesina, do you have examples at hand? for wifi/wimax usage, well documented?
in rural villages
Lauri: we focused, from the beginning on mobile applications and GSM
wifi is often only the "last mile"
Adesina: wifi provides access, for end-users, to ITCs and therefore should be considered
Mira: the problem comes from the definition of mobility
<Adesna> The focus here is access to information to end-users over mobile/wireless platforms
<Adesna> There are wifi-mobile phones though not widely available
Steph: the discussion on wifi/wimax technology does not seem relevant to our work. We should focus on communities' need in content, the underlying technology is not really the problem
the available bandwidth is of interest, not the channels, here
Adesina: fears that the roadmap is too focused on GSM technologies
<Adesna> Agreed
+1
<MiraS> I agree
Lauri: we said we should focus on widely available technologies
we should focus on the "small screen" devices
<Adesna> ok then
<Adesna> agreed
<MiraS> ok
<Adesna> agreed
OK with me
<Lauri> OK for Lauri
<MiraS> agreed
Steph: Discussion on the Technologies Section
Huge range of applications and potential technologies. Scope very broad. Need to reduce it.
<Adesna> I agree with Raphael
I think we should take the opportunity of this road map to give an overview of what technologies exist, are used for applications for development, and make sense
lot's of initiatives are taking place, the hard work is to go through them all and do the synthesis
in a couple of pages
Steph: should we go with other technologies or remain with the 3 main ones proposed
Lauri: we need to also consider the application coverage objective, to better guide roadmap readers/users
i.e. nation-wide application in Finland for tsunami alert
<Adesna> Like Frontline SMS?
Steph, I think that the three initial domains are good to start with
we can see if we need more later
<Adesna> LETS STICK WITH THESE THREE
<MiraS> I agree to keeping the 3 main groups. I think USSD deserves a mention under the "signalling" title.
<MiraS> We could probably include examples without making it comprehensive.
steph ??
<steph> sorry i got disconnected
<steph> don't what hapenned but i can't rejoin
ok
we'll close
<steph> sorry about that
<Adesna> Sorry, I have to go
<steph> so in order to to feed the discussion for next week
<Adesna> I am still on
<Lauri> Lauri explained the difference of several Mobile technologies with example of gas station price information database
<steph> i will focus on
<Adesna> Ltes ken ands steph take care of it
<steph> developing the section 7
<Lauri> bye
OK
<MiraS> -Mira
Bye
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