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Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference

22 Jul 2009

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Conrad, Yves, Michael, Raphael, Erik, Guillaume, Davy, Silvia_(irc)
Regrets
Jack
Chair
Erik
Scribe
mhausenblas

Contents


 

 

<trackbot> Date: 22 July 2009

Previous: 2009-07-15 http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html

<scribe> Scribenick: mhausenblas

<conrad> Zakim ??P9 is me

<conrad> Zakim ??P9 is me

<raphael> Chair: Erik

-> http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html previous 2009-07-15

ADMIN

raphael: review of last week not sent out yet; postponed

ACTION-92

show ACTION-92

ACTION-92?

<trackbot> ACTION-92 -- Erik Mannens to erik and Raphael to coordinate the writing of papers -- due 2009-07-22 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/92

raphael: before we do more dissemination we need to settle the current work

UC & REQUIREMENTS

ACTION-65?

<trackbot> ACTION-65 -- Raphaël Troncy to split current document into i) UC and Req and ii) Syntax and Processing and setup the diff in xmlspec -- due 2009-04-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/65

close ACTION-65

<trackbot> ACTION-65 Split current document into i) UC and Req and ii) Syntax and Processing and setup the diff in xmlspec closed

raphael: done, you'll need an XSLT-2 processor for it

ACTION-68

ACTION-68?

<trackbot> ACTION-68 -- Raphaël Troncy to ask the Media Annotations WG to review our document -- due 2009-04-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/68

SPECIFICATION

<Yves> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jul/0005.html

ACTION-74?

<trackbot> ACTION-74 -- Erik Mannens to erik and Raphael to request feedback of other groups such as SYMM, SVG, HTML + WHATWG, WAI, MAWG, TAG, MobileWeb, TimedText -- due 2009-04-24 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/74

<Yves> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jun/0180.html

Yves: I've contacted TAG, see above
... we might want to resume end of August

ACTION-49?

<trackbot> ACTION-49 -- Yves Lafon to draft the HTTP-Range syntax for different units (completing all the syntax for the two way handshake) -- due 2009-03-25 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/49

ACTION-86?

<trackbot> ACTION-86 -- Raphaël Troncy to to bring the 'comma optional' discussion during next week telecon, in order to measure the price when releasing the syntax -- due 2009-07-01 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/86

ACTION-88?

<trackbot> ACTION-88 -- Yves Lafon to verify that making the comma optional brings no ambiguities in our syntax -- due 2009-07-22 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/88

close ACTION-86

<trackbot> ACTION-86 to bring the 'comma optional' discussion during next week telecon, in order to measure the price when releasing the syntax closed

Yves: removing comma causes no ambiguities
... but we have to resolve the semantics
... re start/end point; we need to be clear

<Yves> http://youtubetime.com/

Yves: see also http://youtubetime.com/

Michael: re TC I'll have to go through it again and see which are effected (and reset them to on-hold)

PROPOSAL: for temporal MF the comma is optional and if one provided this means it is the starting time

+1

<raphael> +1

<davy> +1

<erik> +1

<conrad> +1

<Gui> +1

RESOLUTION: for temporal MF the comma is optional and if one provided this means it is the starting time

<scribe> ACTION: Michael to revisit the TC and see which are effected by the temporal-optional-comma-decision [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/22-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-93 - Revisit the TC and see which are effected by the temporal-optional-comma-decision [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2009-07-29].

close ACTION-88

<trackbot> ACTION-88 Verify that making the comma optional brings no ambiguities in our syntax closed

ACTION-69?

<trackbot> ACTION-69 -- Conrad Parker to draw a representation of the general structure of a media resource, for streamable formats (H/H' + K + D1 + D2 + D3) -- due 2009-04-24 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/69

<scribe> Chair: raphael

conrad: people should review the proposal on the Wiki
... and give feedback via mailing list

raphael: in August we will continue this and reach consensus in Sep

ACTION-64?

<trackbot> ACTION-64 -- Michael Hausenblas to write into the WD section 6.4, what the client should do with #everything after the hash : "Client Side Media Fragment Resolution" -- due 2009-05-22 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/64

close ACTION-85

<trackbot> ACTION-85 Update resolution page, TC pages with that resolution closed

TEST CASES

-> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCases TC

close ACTION-87

<trackbot> ACTION-87 Add the HTTP status code for all TC closed

Michael: we need to be more explicit re output (HTTP status code is fine, but more details re response header, etc.)

ISSUES

ISSUE-3?

<trackbot> ISSUE-3 -- Does our MF URI syntax imply that we need to update MIME Type registrations? -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/3

ACTION-89

ACTION-89?

<trackbot> ACTION-89 -- Yves Lafon to find out more about fragment identifier registration -- due 2009-07-22 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/89

Yves: at next IETF meeting

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Jul/0019.html

Michael: I dunno how to handle it

Yves: should be in both directions, indeed

raphael: can you, Yves, answer Cyril on the list?

Yves: will do

IMPLEMENTATION

ACTION-90?

<trackbot> ACTION-90 -- Davy Van Deursen to provide a pointer to Yves to a lib he can use to slice media files -- due 2009-07-22 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/90

ACTION-91?

<trackbot> ACTION-91 -- Guillaume (Jean-Louis) Olivrin to look at the python gst lib -- due 2009-07-22 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/91

both continue

AOB

raphael: either real F2F in Amsterdam or ...

virtual meeting

scribe: we wait till end of August

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Michael to revisit the TC and see which are effected by the temporal-optional-comma-decision [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/22-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]
 
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Present: Conrad Yves Michael Raphael Erik Guillaume Davy Silvia_(irc)
Regrets: Jack
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Jul/0022.html
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