IRC log of mediafrag on 2009-07-22
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be IA_MFWG
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- ok, trackbot; I see IA_MFWG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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- Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 22 July 2009
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- Chair: Erik
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Jul/0022.html
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- Previous: 2009-07-15 http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html
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- regrets+ Jack
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- + +49.300.aaaa
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- rrsagent, make record public
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 12:00:39 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/22-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 12:00:44 [mhausenblas]
- Scribenick: mhausenblas
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- +Gui
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- +mhausenblas
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/22-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
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- + +0329331aabb
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- +Yves-office
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- +??P9
- 12:03:49 [conrad]
- Zakim ??P9 is me
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- Zakim ??P9 is me
- 12:04:44 [mhausenblas]
- Zakim, ??P9 is conrad
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- +conrad; got it
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- Zakim, mute me
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- conrad should now be muted
- 12:05:52 [raphael]
- Present: Conrad, Yves, Michael, Raphael, Erik, Guillaume, Davy, Silvia (irc)
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- Regrets: Jack
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- Chair: Erik
- 12:06:38 [mhausenblas]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html previous 2009-07-15
- 12:06:42 [mhausenblas]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/22-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 12:07:28 [Yves]
- Previous Meeting: http://www.w3.org/2009/07/22-mediafrag-minutes.html
- 12:07:35 [mhausenblas]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/22-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 12:08:08 [mhausenblas]
- Topic: ADMIN
- 12:08:30 [mhausenblas]
- raphael: review of last week not sent out yet; postponed
- 12:08:52 [Gui]
- zakim, mute me
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- Gui should now be muted
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- ACTION-92
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- show ACTION-92
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- ACTION-92?
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- ACTION-92 -- Erik Mannens to erik and Raphael to coordinate the writing of papers -- due 2009-07-22 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/92
- 12:10:53 [mhausenblas]
- raphael: before we do more dissemination we need to settle the current work
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- Topic: UC & REQUIREMENTS
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- ACTION-65?
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- ACTION-65 -- Raphaël Troncy to split current document into i) UC and Req and ii) Syntax and Processing and setup the diff in xmlspec -- due 2009-04-23 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/65
- 12:12:21 [mhausenblas]
- close ACTION-65
- 12:12:21 [trackbot]
- ACTION-65 Split current document into i) UC and Req and ii) Syntax and Processing and setup the diff in xmlspec closed
- 12:13:19 [mhausenblas]
- raphael: done, you'll need an XSLT-2 processor for it
- 12:13:38 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION-68
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- ACTION-68?
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- ACTION-68 -- Raphaël Troncy to ask the Media Annotations WG to review our document -- due 2009-04-23 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/68
- 12:14:06 [mhausenblas]
- Topic: SPECIFICATION
- 12:15:16 [Yves]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jul/0005.html
- 12:15:21 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION-74?
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- ACTION-74 -- Erik Mannens to erik and Raphael to request feedback of other groups such as SYMM, SVG, HTML + WHATWG, WAI, MAWG, TAG, MobileWeb, TimedText -- due 2009-04-24 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/74
- 12:15:25 [Yves]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jun/0180.html
- 12:15:34 [mhausenblas]
- Yves: I've contacted TAG, see above
- 12:16:19 [mhausenblas]
- ... we might want to resume end of August
- 12:16:33 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION-49?
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- ACTION-49 -- Yves Lafon to draft the HTTP-Range syntax for different units (completing all the syntax for the two way handshake) -- due 2009-03-25 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/49
- 12:16:49 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION-86?
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- ACTION-86 -- Raphaël Troncy to to bring the 'comma optional' discussion during next week telecon, in order to measure the price when releasing the syntax -- due 2009-07-01 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/86
- 12:16:55 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION-88?
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- ACTION-88 -- Yves Lafon to verify that making the comma optional brings no ambiguities in our syntax -- due 2009-07-22 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/88
- 12:17:04 [mhausenblas]
- close ACTION-86
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- ACTION-86 to bring the 'comma optional' discussion during next week telecon, in order to measure the price when releasing the syntax closed
- 12:17:40 [mhausenblas]
- Yves: removing comma causes no ambiguities
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- ... but we have to resolve the semantics
- 12:18:06 [mhausenblas]
- ... re start/end point; we need to be clear
- 12:18:23 [Yves]
- http://youtubetime.com/
- 12:18:24 [mhausenblas]
- ... see also http://youtubetime.com/
- 12:19:43 [mhausenblas]
- Michael: re TC I'll have to go through it again and see which are effected (and reset them to on-hold)
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- PROPOSAL: for temporal MF the comma is optional and if one provided this means it is the starting time
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- +1
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- +1
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- +1
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- +1
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- +1
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- +1
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- RESOLVED: for temporal MF the comma is optional and if one provided this means it is the starting time
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/22-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 12:23:30 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION: Michael to revisit the TC and see which are effected by the temporal-optional-comma-decision
- 12:23:30 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-93 - Revisit the TC and see which are effected by the temporal-optional-comma-decision [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2009-07-29].
- 12:24:45 [mhausenblas]
- close ACTION-88
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- ACTION-88 Verify that making the comma optional brings no ambiguities in our syntax closed
- 12:24:49 [conrad]
- Zakim, unmute me
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- conrad should no longer be muted
- 12:24:53 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION-69?
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- ACTION-69 -- Conrad Parker to draw a representation of the general structure of a media resource, for streamable formats (H/H' + K + D1 + D2 + D3) -- due 2009-04-24 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/69
- 12:25:17 [mhausenblas]
- Chair: raphael
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/22-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 12:27:10 [mhausenblas]
- conrad: people should review the proposal on the Wiki
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- ... and give feedback via mailing list
- 12:27:43 [mhausenblas]
- raphael: in August we will continue this and reach consensus in Sep
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- ACTION-64?
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- ACTION-64 -- Michael Hausenblas to write into the WD section 6.4, what the client should do with #everything after the hash : "Client Side Media Fragment Resolution" -- due 2009-05-22 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/64
- 12:27:59 [conrad]
- Zakim, mute me
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- conrad should now be muted
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- close ACTION-85
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- ACTION-85 Update resolution page, TC pages with that resolution closed
- 12:28:37 [mhausenblas]
- Topic: TEST CASES
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- -> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCases TC
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- close ACTION-87
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- ACTION-87 Add the HTTP status code for all TC closed
- 12:31:51 [mhausenblas]
- Michael: we need to be more explicit re output (HTTP status code is fine, but more details re response header, etc.)
- 12:32:06 [mhausenblas]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/22-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 12:32:47 [mhausenblas]
- Topic: ISSUES
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- ISSUE-3?
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- ISSUE-3 -- Does our MF URI syntax imply that we need to update MIME Type registrations? -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/3
- 12:34:06 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION-89
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- ACTION-89?
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- ACTION-89 -- Yves Lafon to find out more about fragment identifier registration -- due 2009-07-22 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/89
- 12:34:20 [mhausenblas]
- Yves: at next IETF meeting
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- -conrad
- 12:35:15 [mhausenblas]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Jul/0019.html
- 12:36:39 [mhausenblas]
- Michael: I dunno how to handle it
- 12:38:00 [mhausenblas]
- Yves: should be in both directions, indeed
- 12:38:34 [mhausenblas]
- raphael: can you, Yves, answer Cyril on the list?
- 12:38:42 [mhausenblas]
- Yves: will do
- 12:42:50 [mhausenblas]
- Topic: IMPLEMENTATION
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- ACTION-90?
- 12:42:59 [trackbot]
- ACTION-90 -- Davy Van Deursen to provide a pointer to Yves to a lib he can use to slice media files -- due 2009-07-22 -- OPEN
- 12:42:59 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/90
- 12:43:20 [Gui]
- zakim, unmute me
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- Gui should no longer be muted
- 12:43:41 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION-91?
- 12:43:41 [trackbot]
- ACTION-91 -- Guillaume (Jean-Louis) Olivrin to look at the python gst lib -- due 2009-07-22 -- OPEN
- 12:43:41 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/91
- 12:43:44 [mhausenblas]
- both continue
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- Topic: AOB
- 12:44:51 [mhausenblas]
- raphael: either real F2F in Amsterdam or ...
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- virtual meeting
- 12:45:30 [mhausenblas]
- ... we wait till end of August
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- rrsagent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/22-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 12:45:57 [mhausenblas]
- [adjourned]
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- -raphael
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- -Erik
- 12:46:02 [mhausenblas]
- zakim, list attendees
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- As of this point the attendees have been +49.300.aaaa, Gui, mhausenblas, +0329331aabb, raphael, Erik, Yves-office, conrad
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- -Yves-office
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- zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees were +49.300.aaaa, Gui, mhausenblas, +0329331aabb, raphael, Erik, Yves-office, conrad
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/22-mediafrag-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: Michael to revisit the TC and see which are effected by the temporal-optional-comma-decision [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/22-mediafrag-irc#T12-23-30