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<veroniqueM> hi! I will not be able to join on the phone, other meetings going on at the same time, but I will follow on IRC
<joakim> hi welcome!
<scribe> scribe: florian
<joakim> Scribe: Florian
next telecon: 16.06
no telecon at 23.06. because of he F2F in Stockholm
<trackbot> ACTION-43 Check XMP rating notes added
<trackbot> ACTION-47 And Frank to investiage existing approach for setting metadata on a "metamodel level" (or "ontology level") notes added
Joakim: wants to know the meaning of Action-105
Wonsuk: coming up with some vocabulary, terminology, ...
<trackbot> ACTION-105 Daniel to ask members for the definition of contributor types notes added
Joakim: is not sure whether the requirements document is updated as mentioned in Action-121
Thierry: allready updated
Joakim: there are linking problems to the right version of the document
<pchampin> shouldn't the link point to the "latest version" URI?
Thierry: make the change
<daniel> linked page in MAWG page is 20090119 version, so needs to be updated in our web page
<trackbot> ACTION-121 Remind doug to publish requirements document notes added
<trackbot> ACTION-122 Talk to with Phillipe about the delay of the publication notes added
<trackbot> ACTION-122 Talk to with Phillipe about the delay of the publication closed
next item: Initial draft of "Ontology for Media Entity 1.0"
Wonsuk: veronique applied comments to the initial document
<tmichel> Use Cases and Requirements link on http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/
Wonsuk: change of the title of
... added "complex" property value type
<tmichel> ... now updated to http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-annot-reqs-20090604
Wonsuk: introduction changed to the comments of veronique
<veroniqueM> I also changed other sections...
Wonsuk: moved the mapping expression
<veroniqueM> according to the proposition I sent on the mailing list last week
Wonsuk: all the differences can be found in http://tinyurl.com/m4vlrj
Joakim: Section 3.2. only a table with editorial notes?
Wonsuk: should we add
... descriptions should be added in a second version
joakim: this section only a placeholder?
felix: columns in the tables are
missing (semantic mapping)
... syntactic level mapping are missing
<joakim> mute aaaa
Werner: first looking at standards (for datatypes), than adopt thema, than specify the mapping
Felix: we need syntactic level
... accordiung datatypes in existing formats
<pchampin> or "comma separated list of values" vs. actual multiple values
Felix: extending the information in a similar way in a next draft like in CableLabs 1.1
<fsasaki> action - everybody responsible for a format: add a column describing syntactic information ("data types", see cable lab column "Type") to his table
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - -
Werner: agrees with the need for choosing the datatypes based on used datatypes in other standards
<tobias> +1 for Werner
Felix: +1 for Werner
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to check - everybody responsible for a format: add a column describing syntactic information ("data types", see cable lab column "Type") to his table [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-124 - Check - everybody responsible for a format: add a column describing syntactic information ("data types", see cable lab column "Type") to his table [on Felix Sasaki - due 2009-06-16].
joakim: is this version of ontology draft close for publishment?
Wonsuk: initial version of mapping table should be checked by Thierry
<daniel> let's go for the publication as quick as possible to get further feedbacks from outside experts
+1 for daniel
Thierry: will check the document and discuss it offline with Wonsuk
Joakim: publishment of the
document possible till friday?
... document needs to be varified by the w3c
Thierry: different things to do
in order to publish
... xhtml validation
... no broken links in the document
... comeing up with a list of TODOs on the ontology draft
... publications only on tuesday and thursday (request one day before)
Joakim: after Thierries comments
we will publish the document
... make recordings for an improvement of the first version of the ontology doc
Werner: the last comment of veronique remainded on the discussion of the last F2F where we thought about several layers of complexity
+1 for Werner
<fsasaki> +1 to werner
scribe: better uzsage for
reasoning and usability
... add note that more formal defintiions will come up in next versions of the draft, oerhaps in the introduction or ion the property section list
Wonsuk: agrees with Werner, add this description to the property section
<scribe> ACTION: Florian make wiki page for the improvements of the ontology document (type column, ...) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-125 - Make wiki page for the improvements of the ontology document (type column, ...) [on Florian Stegmaier - due 2009-06-16].
Florian: will try to summarize rthe open issues in a wiki page for the F2F in Stockholm
Felix: wants to define a serialization for properties
Joakim: out of scope from the goals of our group
<joakim> s/ Werner Werner
<joakim> no problem :-)
<fsasaki> Felix: I am worried that others will just define one or several serializations, so better we do it before
<fsasaki> Felix: functionality for setting properties in existing formats and their serialization might not always possible
<joakim> thanks editors for the good work!
<joakim> yeah you did good
<joakim> Then you should email the link to the list please!
<joakim> ok thanks, see you!
have a nice week!
<fsasaki> chair: joakim
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