W3C

BAD TF

03 Dec 2008

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Jan Sjoerd, Eric, Tom, Shadi, Maik, Michael
Regrets
Chair
Shadi
Scribe
Maik

Contents


Review of action items

shadi: we're a bit over scedule

eric: next steps: clear up the sidebars in the next days

tom: it's good that the html-code is cleaned up as well

<shadi> ACTION: Eric provide final styling improvements by Monday 8 December [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/03-badtf-minutes.html#action01]

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2005/Demo/after/index

eric: it's not yet clear if we should show an background image case at the sidebar

shadi: we could show the background sample at the bullet points at the bottom

<Michael> michael agrees with tom

tom: too much background-images are used in a "content-way"

michael: accesskeys only make sense in a very special case
... only at intranets for example, not at www-sites

tom: it's difficult to implement accesskeys without messing up users configuration

shadi: okay, accesskeys are gone...

jan: positioning of the annotations has to be fixed for opera browsers
... which content should be shown as annotation?

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2008Nov/0037.html

shadi: we should decide: the box appears if the symbol is hovered or if it's clicked

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2008Dec/0002.html

<Michael> http://www.wienfluss.net/BAD/inbetween/inbetween_after.html

<shadi> [notes: need smaller icons, obviously distinct from the remaining visual design, only 1-2 icons]

jan: the page could look a kind of confusing if boxes are shown by hovering because a lot if icons are next the other and they all could show up
... we should use only two icons within one page

<shadi> http://www.tawdis.net/taw3/online?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F&idioma=en-US

shadi: in this example you can see how it could work

shadi: a click on the icon brings you to the linked description, hovering the icon shows the title

eric: jans versions got a list, only hidden. there should be backlinks to get back to where you were

michael: be careful, the title-attribute is not shown to keyboard-users

<eric> http://ericeggert.net/inbetween/inbetween_after.html <- Jan Soerds version with visible list.

jan: at the updated version you get a lightbox with a link inside

<Michael> http://www.biogas-netzeinspeisung.at/planungstool/project-viewer.html?project_id=30&jump=2

shadi: box should show up if icon is hovered or focused
... the list should be always shown

<eric> http://daringfireball.net/2008/11/google_mobile_uses_private_iphone_apis#fn1-2008-11-19

<shadi> ACTION: Jan Sjoerd to provide an updated version of the in-between pages before 10 December 2008 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/03-badtf-minutes.html#action02]

michael: we have two parts heading and the "real" demo, we should put in some hidden notes like "demo starts here"
... for example some hidden paragraphs

Next meetings

<shadi> RESOLUTION: next meetings 10 & 17 December

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Eric provide final styling improvements by Monday 8 December [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/03-badtf-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Jan Sjoerd to provide an updated version of the in-between pages before 10 December 2008 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/03-badtf-minutes.html#action02]
 
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