See also: IRC log, previous 2008-08-07
<mhausenblas> I got a bit of a scheduling issue here today ... can only stay around till half-past, latest. sorry ...
<ShaneM> "know of know" ?
<Ralph> oops
<Ralph> finger-brain glitch
<Ralph> "know of no" of course
<mhausenblas> http://torrez.us/code/rdfa-js/tests/
Michael: Is the RDFa test harness ready for client-side stuff?
benadida: It's not entirely correct for
negative tests.
... If they overestimate how good the parser is, it wouldn't be good.
Michael: I can integrate it on Monday.
benadida: That would be a good goal.
... Let's talk about IR, wrapping up ISSUE-122 and ISSUE-125
... any other outstanding issues?
ACTION: Michael check tests 52 and 53 with Manu [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [WITHDRAWN]
Michael: I talked about this with Fabien.
... Fabien
clarified that he was looking at the manifest comment not at the spec
ACTION: Michael to update Test Suite Manifest to correct tests 52 and 53 descriptions. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action02]
ACTION: Ben to contact Ed and Diego about new editors drafts coming down the pipe. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]
ACTION: Manu to create test cases for testing relative URI resolution (href/CURIEs/etc). [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action22] [CONTINUES]
ACTION: Mark to update RDFa Syntax document, section 5.4.2 to be explicit about which algorithm is used to resolve relative URIs. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action21] [DONE]
ACTION: Michael to complete implementation report and send out notification to all working groups. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action20] [CONTINUES]
ACTION: Ralph to work with Ben on proposing specific editorial changes to RDFa Syntax document based on ISSUE-122. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action23] [DONE]
ACTION: Ben to log all CR issues to tracker [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [DONE]
ACTION: Ben to talk to Alan about CR ISSUE-122 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action15] [WITHDRAWN]
Ralph: Do you want to talk to him before or after PR?
benadida: After should be fine.
Ralph: Then we should drop this?
benadida: yep,
<mhausenblas> +1
ACTION: Ben to update Primer according to resolution, and add note about "it was designed to eventually work in HTML, etc..." [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action20] [DONE]
ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI is set up. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES]
ACTION: Shane to start a wiki page for HTML4/5 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action21] [CONTINUES]
reassigned from Manu to Shane
ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03] [CONTINUES]
ACTION: Manu: Start Best Practices Section on the rdfa.info wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/17-rdfa-minutes.html#action16] [CONTINUES]
ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [CONTINUES]
ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES]
ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [CONTINUES]
ACTION: Michael to rewrite and extend http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tutorials for RSS (maybe with seq) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action08] [CONTINUES]
<mhausenblas> http://sw.joanneum.at/rdfa/rss/
ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action11] [CONTINUES]
ACTION: Ralph to make http://www.w3.org/2008/07/rdfa-xslt happen [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action05] [CONTINUES]
ACTION: Shane to update XHTML ns document to point to new XSLT URI [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]
ACTION: Shane to write home page for SPREAD. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [CONTINUES]
benadida: Are you missing stuff from me,
Michael?
... Do you have the link for SPREAD?
... anything else you need?
Michael: Would be good if somebody could go
through the entire document.
... If somebody wanted to fill out section 4 more, that would be good.
<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report/
benadida: I need to fix up the EARL report.
... for the client side stuff.
... client side (Javascript) RDFa parsers.
Michael: I just need the client side Javascript EARL reports.
ShaneM: What's happening monday?
Michael: We promised to have Implementation Report to SWD by Tuesday, Aug. 19th.
ShaneM: So, are we preparing a PR draft for Tuesday?
benadida: As far as content goes, yes, that is
the goal.
... Is that an issue or a blocker with that?
ShaneM: No, just that the PR document has a different status section.
Ralph: The internal editors draft is fine.
... We'll change the status section when both workgroups want to move the
document forward to PR.
benadida: Yes.
Michael: Anything else?
benadida: Nope, I'll get the Javascript implementation EARL reports to you.
Ralph: You're okay with Test 31? Canonicalization not required?
Michael: Yes.
Michael: There's the link explaining it.
<ShaneM> can you confirm the imp report will be at http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report
<mhausenblas> yes, Shane I confirm it hereby
[Michael departs]
benadida: Ralph, you had a lot of suggestions and they all sounded great.
benadida: Shane pointed out that one of them was a "maybe".
Ralph: In the latest editors draft
<Ralph> current editor's draft
<Ralph> ED-rdfa-syntax-20080812/#s_rdfaindetail
<Ralph> ED-rdfa-syntax-20080812/#sec_5.5.
Ralph: Where the @@@ is
... That's not where it should be.
Ralph: I asked if adding the parethesis helped
at all?
... I think they definitely don't help in section 5.5.
... Don't think it hurts in section 6.
benadida: It's good to have because it's
precise.
... That seemed to be the only point of contention.
... But that looks good.
Manu: No comments.
Steven: No comments.
<Steven> No comments
benadida: So the change at the end of section 2
looks good to me.
... CreativeCommons is recommending rel="license" instead of
rel="cc:license"
Ralph: Only one example of it, let's change it.
benadida: We should respond to ISSUE-122 with Ralph's proposed draft tweaked with what we've discussed.
Ralph: I can update it based on what we discussed and send it out.
<benadida> ACTION: Ben and Manu to test implementations on step 9 (no child nodes with @property) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action23]
benadida: I think the wording is correct, so that looks good for the change to step 9.
Manu: That looks correct.
<benadida> PROPOSE: to respond to ISSUE-122 with Ralph's draft, tweaked with today's conclusions regarding moving comment to Section 6, tweaking the last example in Section 2, and confirming the step 9 no child nodes situation.
<Ralph> +1
<Manu> +1
<Steven> +1
ShaneM: +1
ACTION: Ralph to send note to Alan regarding ISSUE-122 resolution [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action24]
RESOLUTION: Ralph to respond to ISSUE-122 with Ralph's draft, tweaked with today's conclusions regarding moving comment to Section 6, tweaking the last example in Section 2, and confirming the step 9 no child nodes situation.
benadida: This has to do with us mentioning @name in the syntax document. It doesn't appear anywhere else in the document.
Ralph: Yes.
ShaneM: Yes.
Ralph: It is a "dinosaur bone".
<benadida> PROPOSE: remove @name from section 2.1 of syntax, as it has no impact on output of RDFa parser.
<Manu> +1
<Ralph> +1
<Steven> +1
<ShaneM> +1
RESOLUTION: remove @name from section 2.1 of syntax, as it has no impact on output of RDFa parser.
<Ralph> Champagne time! All Issues Closed
ACTION: Shane to respond to ISSUE-125 on mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action25]
benadida: I believe that is everything, any other issues for PR or anything else?
<ShaneM> ED-rdfa-syntax-20080814/