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SML WG Teleconference 22 May 2008

22 May 2008

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Attendees

Present
Regrets
Jordan
Chair
John Arwe
Scribe
James Lynn

Contents


 

 

<MSM> johnarwe, an automotive problem has come up that I have to take care of right now; I'll be late for the call. Hopefully not too late, but late.

<scribe> Scribe: James Lynn

<scribe> scribenick: Jim

<pratul> I will be representing Microsoft until Kumar shows up

Approval of Minutes

<johnarwe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008May/att-0078/20080515-sml-minutes.html

No objections or updates noted.

Resolution: Minutes approved.

Register for Edinburgh

register whether attending in person or by phone.

The CG is gravitating toward the week that we selected (Oct 27-31).

F2F in October

<pratul> Switching back to co-chair role now that Kumar is here

Action Items

Pratul: No ETA on his item.

Kumar: No update.

Bugs with no keywords or target

Bug 5678

Close this bug as this was due to a technical problem on the server.

Bug 5710

Sections 4.1.3 and 4.1.1 definitions do not match.

<scribe> ACTION: Julia to propose a change. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/22-sml-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-186 - Propose a change. [on Julia McCarthy - due 2008-05-29].

Actioin 186 = Propose a text change for Bug 5710

<johnarwe> first sentence of 4.3 probably supplies the info missing per bug 5710

Action 186 = Propose a text change for Bug 5710

Bug 5711 Fuzzy phrase: "essentially the same"

Resolution: Mark as editorial, does not need review.

Bug 5712 Missing word "global" in schema annotation

Kumar requested that we defer this to the next meeting to give him time to research whether the "global" restriction makes sense.

<scribe> ACTION: Kumar to research issue in Bug 5712. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/22-sml-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-187 - Research issue in Bug 5712. [on Kumar Pandit - due 2008-05-29].

Resolution: Mark as needsAgreement.

Bug 5713 Wording issues in Appendix E

Resolution: Mark as editorial, does not need agreement.

Decided Bugs

Bug 5513 Why does SML define sml:ref...

Need to wait one more week.

Bug 5520

Need to wait one more week.

Bug 5529

Need to wait one more week.

Bug 5562

Need to wait one more week.

Bugs which need review

Bug 5549 Explanation of notation for { }, [ ]

Bug 5505 wrong type for schemaBinding

Resolution: Mark as FIXED

Bug 5506 Update spec to clarify SML reference resolution

<johnarwe> first step: any objs to diff in comment 1?

<johnarwe> second step will be: assess agreement on proposal in comment 2

WG agrees on the changes shown in the diff file in sections 4.1.3 and 4.1.4.

WG agrees to the changes in Comment #2.

Resolution: Mark as editorial, no need for review.

Bug 5635 impl-define and impl dependent not defined

Resolution: Mark as FIXED. Open a new bug to address "processor" per comment #5

HasProposal Bugs

Bug 5658 Restore accidental change to smlif:identityType

Resolution: Mark as editorial, no review needed.

Bug 5659 schemaComplete default value

Proposal to have schemaComplete='false'

Resolution: Mark as editorial, does not need review.

Bug 5676 schemaComplete in 1 location

Proposal is to mov schemaComplete to modelType and update spec as per bug description.

Resolution: Mark as editorial, needs no review.

Bug 5679 SML ref targets in SML and SML-IF do not agree

Resolution: Mark as editorial per proposal in description, needs no review.

Bug 5680 Fix errors in schematron example

Resolution: Mark as needs agreement.

<scribe> ACTION: Julia to discuss Bug 5680 with Valentina. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/22-sml-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-188 - Discuss Bug 5680 with Valentina. [on Julia McCarthy - due 2008-05-29].

Bug 5707 clarify SML reference resolution

<johnarwe> this comes up I think because of the first sentence in the bug - we already talk about fragment-only uris

<johnarwe> MSM suggests that, to the degree we need to state anything, we note that it is a consequence of other normative documents, not a normative stmt promulgated by our specs

<johnarwe> the other sticky point about what I'll call this "transitive closure" issue of dependencies, is that if you (as we did with sml) want to say that it supports _either_ schema 1.0 or 1.1, you must choose between non-overlapping RFC numbers (because newer ones superseded older)

<pratul> John - we should do the ext comments bugs first

<pratul> due to the 2 week mandatory wait period

<scribe> ACTION: Kumar to draft a proposal for Bug 5707. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/22-sml-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-189 - Draft a proposal for Bug 5707. [on Kumar Pandit - due 2008-05-29].

Resolution: Mark as needsAgreement.

Bug 5519 Relationship between SML validity and XSD validity

<MSM> the lady or the tiger?

<johnarwe> time check - have to wrap soon

Resolution: Remains needsAgreement. Pick up discussion on next call.

<MSM> test cases for lax fallback

<scribe> ACTION: MSM to draft test case for lax falback. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/22-sml-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-190 - Draft test case for lax falback. [on Michael Sperberg-McQueen - due 2008-05-29].

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Julia to discuss Bug 5680 with Valentina. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/22-sml-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Julia to propose a change. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/22-sml-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Kumar to draft a proposal for Bug 5707. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/22-sml-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Kumar to research issue in Bug 5712. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/22-sml-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: MSM to draft test case for lax falback. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/22-sml-minutes.html#action05]
 
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