See also: IRC log, previous 2007-08-28
PROPOSED to accept minutes of -> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html 2007-08-28
Tom: There was a minor issue, though
<guus> second
RESOLUTION: accepted minutes of 28 Aug 2007
upcoming telecon: 11 Sep
face-to-face meeting - Amsterdam - October 8-9 2007
-> http://www.few.vu.nl/~aisaac/swd/ Logistics
<guus> regrets for 17 Sep [dinner in House of Lords :-)]
<RalphS> regrets from me for 11 Sep telecon
-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda draft agenda
-> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39408/swd-ftf-adam-registration/ registration
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to update the f2f agenda [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES]
-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#SKOS
Tom: New issue "Drawing the pictures" - see Sean's posting
-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Aug/0016.html post
Tom: Any volunteers?
... not a major issue; postpone
ISSUE 35: ConceptSchemeContainment (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/36)
<TomB> Guus proposes that we not discuss "drawing the picture" at the F2F unless we have a document to discuss.
Guus: Discussed with Sean
... encourage people to use owl:import
... enables to make statements on multiple documents
... merge graphs
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to email a proposal to the list about the issue of containment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/24-swd-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]
Guus: Will prepare this for F2F
Issue-26: RelationshipsBetweenLabels (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26)
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to move ISSUE-26 forward [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action04] [CONTINUES]
Guus: Will be finished within next two weeks
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to post user experience reports for ISSUE-26 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action05] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Alistair to state the difference between the two flavours of the SimpleExtension proposal for issue 26 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-swd-minutes.html#action05] [CONTINUES]
ISSUE-31 BasicLexicalLabelSemantics proposed resolution
see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jun/0170.html
Tom: Alistair, is it a good place
at the agenda for the F2F
... Should we copy in the proposed solution?
<scribe> ACTION: Tom to paste proposed solution to ISSUE-31 into F2F agenda [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action06]
ISSUE-38 CompatibilityWithOWL-DL
<guus> [sorry, i get called away for a few minutes]
OWL Full tag http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jul/0124.html
Alistair: Compatibility with
OWL-DL
... issue; new OWL 1.1 WG in the pipeline
... might be resolved within this new OWL version
Elisa: We've been following the
OWL 1.1 development
... Sean may have a better idea about the timeline
Tom: Drop it for F2F
-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa RDFa Overview document
<scribe> ACTION: Ben to bring up the HTML WG review of RDFa syntax with Steven [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action01] [DONE]
<RalphS> XHTML2 WG review
Ralph: Ben reminded Steven P. on
the process
... Shane and Mark take care for the Syntax doc
-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa
Schedule is out of sync!
Tom: I find it confusing looking at the Wiki page wrt F2F
Michael: Syntax - mean http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-rdfa-syntax-20070830/ ?
Overview available at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts
Tom: No preferences where to keep it updated
Michael: Looking at http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#RDFa
Tom: RDFa issues at F2F are
Syntax doc and get buy-in from rest of WG on final design
... should prepare a snapshot around 24 Sep
<RalphS> ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08]
see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#Recipes
<scribe> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action09] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Diego to prepare a f2f agenda topic for recipes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action08] [DONE]
<RalphS> Diego's f2f Recipes agendum
Diego: Had a discussion with Jon
just before the telecon
... can I commit the agenda to the Wiki?
<guus> [sorry for my absence, I' back]
Tom: Would be helpful for each discussion item to have a reading list
-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#VocabularyMgt
Elisa: Peter (?) might shed some
light on this and I see synergies
... agenda is capable of holding this?
<scribe> ACTION: Vit to prepare WG agenda for VM by 11 September [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-swd-minutes.html#action10] [DONE]
<TomB> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Aug/0037.html
<scribe> ACTION: Elisa to ask for feedback on VM draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-swd-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]
Tom: Can someone take an action to update the Wiki?
<scribe> ACTION: Elisa to update the VocabMgt agenda in the F2F [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action13]
Tom: TAG and ZZZ reviewed Sauermann,
"Cool URIs for the Semantic Web"
... my question is regarding the scope
Elisa: Talking about URI # vs. /
issues
... beyond that it does not talk about other things
Tom: Should point from the SWD
page to it
... AOB?
... Guus, anything about arrangements at F2F?
... dinner for those who arrive Sun night
Guus: Propose to start on Mon at
9:00 CET
... end Tue on 17:00 CET
<RalphS> list of Amsterdam hotels
<RalphS> Guus: allow 15-20 mins from the University to Schiphol airport
Guus: Back to SKOS
... regarding owl:import
... in SPARQL you can use multiple graphs
<TomB> Named Graphs, Provenance and Trust, Carroll et al.
Guus: My question to Alistair
would be
... if we can handle it without making SKOS dependent on
OWL
Alistair: Using named graph
... and give guidance
<Elisa> there may be some related insights for provenance, etc. in the proof markup language (pml) - see http://www.ksl.stanford.edu/KSL_Abstracts/KSL-04-01.html
Alistair: not for using owl:import
Guus: I'm going to write up the proposal
Antoine: Objection against owl:import
Guus: One solution would be to defined ConceptScheme as a subclass of owl:Ontology
Tom: Thanks everyone