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<alessio> hallo all
<Steven> hi
<Steven> Scribe: ShaneM
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/2007/03/XHTML2-WG-charter.html
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml-roadmap/
Steven is working with Chris to sort this out.
<yamx> I have a question on charter.(yam)
<scribe> ACTION: Shane will review editors draft of GRDDL [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-xhtml-minutes.html#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to reply to GRDDL review request [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]
<yamx> My question is that XHTML2 and charter refer all to DOM2Event, but I wonder that DOM3Event is needed for namespaced events (e.g. SVG)
Unfortunately there is no DOM3 event spec yet. The intent is that XML Events 2 will rely upon DOM3 events if there is one.
<yamx> OK. It seems like OMA and W3C XHTMLWG have the same concerns.
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/
The WebAPI WOrking group is responsible for producing DOMEvents 3
<Steven> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html
We got test results from the OMA on the mobile profile. Steven and Shane had some questions.
There are a lot of tests, but only a small subset are of interest to this working group (around 70).
Some tests were not run, but there was no indication as to why. Yam indicated that it was either because the feature was not supported or because they ran out of time.
Yam also said that @inputmode was not really tested because it was optional, and because there was no test material for it. It is up to the W3C to provide test materials for that feature (and for the target attribute).
Steven is concerned that because all the tests have not been run we cannot use the test results as a mechanism to exit CR.
Steven asks whether these results would mean the spec was complete to the OMA? Yam says no, it is still a candidate.
Steven asks what we actually need to test for inputmode? Since it is just a hint and it is optional. Yam agrees that it is optional.
Steven points out that target is also just a hint, so is in the same situation.
Steven states that these test results are only interim, and we cannot use them to exit CR. We will need to wait for future test fest results that indicate all tests are run and pass before.
For tests that were not yet run.... we can just wait until the next test fest and hope that we get better results.
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/xhtml2
Still working on updates.
need to put out a new public draft.
Not really worth discussing without Mark. Nothing to report from the RDFa task force with regards to this as yet.
Steven still needs to get back to the XML Schema working group. Otherwise we are ready to go.
<Steven> scribe: Steven
Shane: I had an action item to add an attribute
<ShaneM> <h3><code>raise</code> = <dtref>CDATA</dtref></h3>
<ShaneM> <p>The <aref>raise</aref> attribute defines the <nref>DOM2EVENTS</nref> event that
<ShaneM> should be raised with respect to the target when the access shortcut is invoked. The default value for this is "focus".
<ShaneM> The following events are permitted:
<ShaneM> <code>DOMFocusIn</code>, <code>DOMActivate</code>, <code>click</code>, <code>mousedown</code>, <code>mouseup</code>, <code>mouseover</code>.
Shane: that specified the event that should be trigger
<ShaneM> </p>
s.trigger/triggered/
Shane: We need to limit the collection of
events
... to those that make sense within DOM2
... which unfortunately don't include key events
<ShaneM> Steven thinks this list may be too platform oriented.
<ShaneM> Shane (defensively) said that DOM2EVENTS is all we have to work from.
Shane: THis module is for XHTML 1.*, so we can't depend on XML Events
Steven: I understand
Gregory: I have been looking at Events
... assistive technology is going to trigger audio events
... who is going to take care of this on the Backplane?
... We have a number of use cases around this
... The backplane should take responsibility for this
Steven: Al Gilman is on the backplane group
Gergory: CSS2.1 has deprecated audial stuff
... and CSS3 has 2 modules
... so I am representing WAI trying to sort this out
Steven: THe backplane has taken on this work, so we need to wait on them to come up to speed
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/2006/backplane/
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/Group/Drafts/1.1/intent-based-events.html
Shane: Should we link access and role?
Steven: It would make access more useful
... ANYBODY OBJECT?
[SILENCE]
sTEVEN: sO RESOLVED
[Adjourned]
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