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13:35:56 <Steven> Meeting: XHTML2 WG Weekly Teleconference
13:36:09 <Steven> Regrets: Rich, Tina
13:36:38 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jun/0030
13:36:52 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jun/0030
13:37:01 <Steven> Chair: Steven
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13:55:47 <alessio> hallo all
14:00:48 <Steven> hi
14:01:51 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
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14:01:54 <Zakim> sorry, Steven, I don't know what conference this is
14:02:01 <Steven> zakim, this will be xhtml
14:02:10 <Zakim> ok, Steven, I see IA_XHTML2()10:00AM already started
14:02:15 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
14:02:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see Gregory_Rosmiata, ??P32, [IPcaller]
14:02:21 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
14:02:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see yamx, alessio, RRSAgent, Zakim, ShaneM, Steven, krijnh
14:02:28 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
14:02:30 <Zakim> +Steven
14:02:39 <alessio> zakim, ??P32 is Alessio
14:02:42 <Zakim> +Alessio; got it
14:02:44 <ShaneM>  zakim, [ip is ShaneM
14:02:46 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it
14:02:58 <Zakim> +??P37
14:03:17 <yamx> zakim, ??P37 is yamx
14:03:17 <Zakim> +yamx; got it
14:03:29 <Steven> Regrets+Mark
14:06:01 <Steven> Topic: Charter
14:06:12 <Steven> Scribe: Shane
14:06:47 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2007/03/XHTML2-WG-charter.html
14:07:10 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml-roadmap/
14:07:23 <ShaneM>  Steven is working with Chris to sort this out.
14:08:09 <ShaneM>  Topic: Last Call Review of GRDDL
14:08:10 <yamx> I have a question on charter.(yam)
14:09:28 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Shane will review editors draft of GRDDL
14:10:08 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Steven to reply to GRDDL review request
14:10:09 <yamx> My question is that XHTML2 and charter refer all to DOM2Event, but I wonder that DOM3Event is needed for namespaced events (e.g. SVG)
14:12:04 <ShaneM>  Unfortunately there is no DOM3 event spec yet.  The intent is that XML Events 2 will rely upon DOM3 events if there is one.
14:12:46 <yamx> OK. It seems like OMA and W3C XHTMLWG have the same concerns. 
14:12:53 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/
14:12:56 <ShaneM>  The WebAPI WOrking group is responsible for producing DOMEvents 3
14:13:07 <Steven> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html
14:16:28 <ShaneM>  Topic: XHTML Basic Test Results
14:16:54 <ShaneM>  We got test results from the OMA on the mobile profile.  Steven and Shane had some questions.
14:17:16 <ShaneM>  There are a lot of tests, but only a small subset are of interest to this working group (around 70).
14:18:14 <ShaneM>  Some tests were not run, but there was no indication as to why.  Yam indicated that it was either because the feature was not supported or because they ran out of time.
14:18:31 <Zakim> -Alessio
14:19:13 <ShaneM>  Yam also said that @inputmode was not really tested because it was optional, and because there was no test material for it.  It is up to the W3C to provide test materials for that feature (and for the target attribute).
14:19:46 <ShaneM>  Steven is concerned that because all the tests have not been run we cannot use the test results as a mechanism to exit CR.
14:22:09 <ShaneM>  Steven asks whether these results would mean the spec was complete to the OMA?  Yam says no, it is still a candidate.
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14:23:07 <Zakim> +??P43
14:23:20 <alessio_> zakim, ??P43 is Alessio
14:23:20 <Zakim> +Alessio; got it
14:24:18 <ShaneM>  Steven asks what we actually need to test for inputmode?  Since it is just a hint and it is optional.  Yam agrees that it is optional.
14:24:40 <ShaneM>  Steven points out that target is also just a hint, so is in the same situation.
14:26:07 <ShaneM>  Steven states that these test results are only interim, and we cannot use them to exit CR.  We will need to wait for future test fest results that indicate all tests are run and pass before.
14:26:34 <ShaneM>  For tests that were not yet run.... we can just wait until the next test fest and hope that we get better results.
14:28:57 <ShaneM>  http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/xhtml2
14:29:25 <ShaneM>  Topic: Role and Access Modules
14:29:29 <ShaneM>  Still working on updates.
14:29:33 <ShaneM>  Topic: XHTML 2 draft
14:29:40 <ShaneM>  need to put out a new public draft.
14:29:42 <ShaneM>  Topic: CURIES
14:30:13 <ShaneM>  Not really worth discussing without Mark.  Nothing to report from the RDFa task force with regards to this as yet.
14:31:36 <ShaneM>  Topic: XHTML M12N
14:31:55 <ShaneM>  Steven still needs to get back to the XML Schema working group.  Otherwise we are ready to go.
14:32:27 <ShaneM>  Topic: Access Module (again)
14:32:48 <Steven> scribe: Steven
14:33:02 <Steven> Shane: I had an action item to add an attribute 
14:33:12 <ShaneM>  <h3><code>raise</code> = <dtref>CDATA</dtref></h3> 
14:33:12 <ShaneM>  
14:33:12 <ShaneM> <p>The <aref>raise</aref> attribute defines the <nref>DOM2EVENTS</nref> event that 
14:33:12 <ShaneM> should be raised with respect to the target when the access shortcut is invoked.  The default value for this is "focus". 
14:33:12 <ShaneM> The following events are permitted: 
14:33:14 <ShaneM> <code>DOMFocusIn</code>, <code>DOMActivate</code>, <code>click</code>, <code>mousedown</code>, <code>mouseup</code>, <code>mouseover</code>. 
14:33:14 <Steven> ... that specified the event that should be trigger
14:33:17 <ShaneM> </p> 
14:33:21 <Steven> s.trigger/triggered/
14:33:54 <Steven> Shane: We need to limit the collection of events 
14:34:01 <Steven> ... to those that make sense within DOM2
14:34:14 <Steven> ... which unfortunately don't include key events
14:37:08 <ShaneM> Steven thinks this list may be too platform oriented. 
14:37:21 <ShaneM> Shane (defensively) said that DOM2EVENTS is all we have to work from. 
14:39:38 <Steven> zakim, who is noisy?
14:39:51 <Zakim> Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Alessio (99%)
14:40:01 <Steven> zakim, mute alessio
14:40:01 <Zakim> Alessio should now be muted
14:40:03 <alessio_> zakim, mute me
14:40:03 <Zakim> sorry, alessio_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:40:28 <alessio_> zakim, mute Alessio
14:40:28 <Zakim> Alessio was already muted, alessio_
14:41:37 <Steven> SShane: THis module is for XHTML 1.*, so we can't depend on XML Events
14:41:41 <Steven> Steven: I understand
14:41:49 <Steven> s/SS/S/
14:41:59 <Steven> Gregory: I have been looking at Events
14:42:14 <Steven> ... assistive technology is going to trigger audio events
14:42:33 <Steven> ... who is going to take care of this on the Backplane?
14:42:59 <Steven> ... We have a number of use cases around this
14:43:31 <Steven> ... The backplane should take responsibility for this
14:44:10 <Steven> Steven: Al Gilman is on the backplane group
14:44:34 <Steven> Gergory: CSS2.1 has deprecated audial stuff
14:44:46 <Steven> ... and CSS3 has 2 modules
14:45:00 <Steven> ... so I am representing WAI trying to sort this out
14:45:38 <Zakim> -Alessio
14:46:47 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:46:59 <alessio_> zakim, [IPcaller] is Alessio
14:47:00 <Zakim> +Alessio; got it
14:47:51 <Steven> Steven: THe backplane has taken on this work, so we need to wait on them to come up to speed
14:48:22 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/2006/backplane/
14:48:48 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/Group/Drafts/1.1/intent-based-events.html
14:49:15 <Zakim> -Alessio
14:49:40 <Steven> Shane: Should we link access and role?
14:49:49 <Steven> Steven: It would make access more useful
14:51:30 <Steven> ... ANYBODY OBJECT?
14:51:34 <Steven> [SILENCE]
14:51:38 <Steven> sTEVEN: sO RESOLVED
14:51:56 <Zakim> -ShaneM
14:51:57 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmiata
14:51:57 <Zakim> -yamx
14:51:59 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has ended
14:52:01 <Zakim> Attendees were Gregory_Rosmiata, Steven, Alessio, ShaneM, yamx
14:52:09 <Steven> [Adjourned]
14:52:29 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
14:52:29 <Zakim> apparently IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has ended, Steven
14:52:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see alessio_, RRSAgent, Zakim, ShaneM, Steven, krijnh
14:52:39 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:52:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
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14:56:22 <Steven> s/scribe: Shane/scribe: ShaneM/
14:56:27 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:56:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
14:57:06 <Steven> s/Scribe: Shane/Scribe: ShaneM/
14:57:11 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:57:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
14:57:42 <alessio> I'm sorry, tried to reconnect but very bad line...
15:07:03 <alessio> bye all :)
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