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W3C Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 12-04-2007, 17:00 UTC

12 Apr 2007

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Tobias_Bürger, Christian_Halaschek-Wiener, +Jeff_Pan, Zeljko_Obrenovic, Thomas_Franz, Roberto_Ellero, Melliyal_Annamalai, Erik_Mannens, Vassilis_Tzouvaras, Raphael_Troncy
Regrets
Pasquale_Popolizio, Giovanni_Tummarello
Chair
Jeff
Scribe
mhausenblas

Contents

 

 

<chrisa> no, I will participate through IRC

<JeffP> http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html

<JeffP> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Apr/0037.html

<scribe> ScribeNick: mhausenblas

1. ADMIN

Roll call

PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 29th March 2007 telecon: http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html

<JeffP> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Apr/0037.html

<JeffP> more details on the future of XG

<chalaschek> no objections here

Jeff: Any objections w.r.t. extended minutes?

none

minutes accepted

2. Future of the XG

<scribe> ACTION: Jeff and Raphael to ask W3C what will happen with wiki after the end of XG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action04] [DONE]

<scribe> ACTION: Jeff and Raphael to contact W3C about extending XG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action16] [DONE]

<JeffP> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Apr/0036.html

<vassilis> thnx michael

<JeffP> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/procedures.html#Duration

Michael: Draft charter asap

<rellero_> tx

Jeff: It is possible to extend an XG up to one year

<scribe> ACTION: Jeff, Raphael and Erik to ask written W3C about formal written request [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action11] [CONTINUES]

Erik: I sent the chairs a mail regarding the DIG35 spec
... need a formal written request from W3C

zakim ??P43 is raphael

Raphael: Had a chat with Ivan H. about this issue
... will report on it next time

Erik: Received invitation from James Payton to join X???

Raphael: Erik, would you like to participate in I3A from XG-side?
... I can NOT commit to set up a new charter

Jeff: How and when to organise the workshop

Raphael: I think we should vote on workshop

<raphael> zaim, which makes noise

<ThomasFranz> i here an echo, too

<raphael> Raphael disagree we *shoud* organize a workshop

<raphael> where such decision has been taken? and when?

<raphael> where is the record ?

Vassilis: Shouldn't decide now

Raphael: Propose a formal vote on having a workshop by next telecon

+1

<JeffP> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/charter

Raphael: Strongly adivse to contact the W3C rep to ask how charter should be written

<raphael> +1 to move on

<scribe> ACTION: Jeff to contact W3C representative to discuss charter extension [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action04]

3. LINKS Pages

Vocabularies page, see: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Vocabularies

-> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/XGR-vocabularies/ XGR Voc

Michael: Plan to have it reviewable by end of next week
... can Erik please add DIG35 formalisation to Wiki?

Erik: Yes

Resources/Tools page, see: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tools_and_Resources

<scribe> ACTION: Zeljko to rephrase the introduction to tools classifications [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action03] [DONE]

<scribe> ACTION: Zeljko to rise discussion on links between tool and use cases pages [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action02] [DONE]

Raphael: Now the T&R doc seems ready
... could stay a living doc
... any updates triggered through mailing list - thanx to Zeljko
... great job

4. Image Annotation on the Semantic Web Deliverable

<scribe> ACTION: Raphael to mail to the list notification for publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]

Raphael: Have to go through pub-rules checker

5. Interoperability Deliverable

5.1 Structure (Vassilis, Jeff)

<scribe> ACTION: Jeff and Vasilis to fill 3.1 and 3.2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES]

Jeff: Had discussion on RDF (cf. mailing list)
... plan to add a summary
... e.g. based on SWBPDWG deliverables

<raphael> +1 but more general to address the fragment identification problem in MM ... see mailling list discussion

Raphael: Support your idea for sec. 3.1
... and add all the various fragment identification possibilities (MPEG-21, etc.)

5.2 Music Use case: (Oscar)

<scribe> ACTION: Giovanni to explain in more detail parts of the music use case, defining how to generate play lists [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action09] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: Oscar to update a possible scenario with classical music (thanks to Ivan Herman) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: Oscar to update the UC and the interop deliverable [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]

5.3 News Use case: (Thierry, Chris, Raphael)

Chris: We make progress
... next week we'll have a stable version for feedback

-> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/News_Use_Case News UC

Raphael: We show 4 examples

<vassilis> sorry I have to lea because

Raphael: how to reason with it

<scribe> ACTION: Chris, Thierry and Raphael to update the UC and the interop deliverable [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action12] [CONTINUES]

5.4 Photo Use case: (Susanne Boll, Erik Mannens)

<scribe> ACTION: Erik to send the URL of the DIG35 OWL Schema by the next telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action12] [DONE]

Raphael: Did you see my comments?

Erik: Yes, Now shortly - details on list
... paper is planned

<raphael> great, I'm very enthousiastic !!!

Erik: no time for automatic conversion
... when XG moves on, we plan some more work

Raphael: We can support you, there - will talk offline

Erik: Back to -> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Photo_Use_Case Photo UC

<scribe> ACTION: Raphael to contact Susanne regarding converge for a solution for the use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action14]

5.5 Tagging Use case: (George, Thomas, Raphael)

-> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tagging_Use_Case Tagging UC

Thomas: no news

5.6 Algorithm representation Use case: (Massimo, Suzanne, Patrizia, Ovidio)

<scribe> ACTION: Jeff to finish a review in one week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action15] [DONE]

<scribe> ACTION: Vassilis to review algorithm representation UC [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action13] [CONTINUES]

5.7 Semantic Multimedia Retrieval Use case: (Ioannis, Sofia)

Review of Susanne Little: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Mar/0024.html

Review of Vassilis: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Mar/0038.html

Reply from Ioannis/Sofia http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Mar/0065.html

-> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Semantic_Media_Retrieval_Use_case Semantic Multimedia Retrieval UC

Vassilis: Not sure if second UC is an interop one

Raphael: Due to the fact that the two authors are not here, this should be done via mail

6. MPEG-7 Deliverable

-> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/XGR-mpeg7/ MPEG-7 and the Semantic Web XGR

<scribe> ACTION: Oscar, Stamatia, Raphael, Suzanne, Chrisa, Michael to have MPEG-7 deliverable ready for review by next telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action20] [CONTINUES]

Raphael: We had offline discussions about that
... will have a version by next telecon

7. AOB

<raphael> Jeff ask if people can volunteer to write the new charter

<raphael> Vassilis: yes of course

Michael: I can contribute a bit ;)

Raphael: I will give feedback, for sure, but can not take over lead

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Jeff to contact W3C representative to discuss charter extension [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Raphael to contact Susanne regarding converge for a solution for the use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action14]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Chris, Thierry and Raphael to update the UC and the interop deliverable [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Giovanni to explain in more detail parts of the music use case, defining how to generate play lists [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Jeff and Vasilis to fill 3.1 and 3.2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Jeff, Raphael and Erik to ask written W3C about formal written request [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Oscar to update a possible scenario with classical music (thanks to Ivan Herman) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Oscar to update the UC and the interop deliverable [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Oscar, Stamatia, Raphael, Suzanne, Chrisa, Michael to have MPEG-7 deliverable ready for review by next telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action20]
[PENDING] ACTION: Raphael to mail to the list notification for publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Vassilis to review algorithm representation UC [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action13]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Erik to send the URL of the DIG35 OWL Schema by the next telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action12]
[DONE] ACTION: Jeff and Raphael to ask W3C what will happen with wiki after the end of XG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Jeff and Raphael to contact W3C about extending XG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action16]
[DONE] ACTION: Jeff to finish a review in one week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action15]
[DONE] ACTION: Zeljko to rephrase the introduction to tools classifications [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action03]
[DONE] ACTION: Zeljko to rise discussion on links between tool and use cases pages [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action02]
 
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Present: Tobias_Bürger Christian_Halaschek-Wiener +Jeff_Pan Zeljko_Obrenovic Thomas_Franz Roberto_Ellero Melliyal_Annamalai Erik_Mannens Vassilis_Tzouvaras Raphael_Troncy
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