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GRDDL WG Weekly

28 Feb 2007

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Chimezie_Ogbuji, john-l, HarryH, DanC, bwm, FabienG, Murray_Maloney, +1.703.861.aabb, rreck, briansuda
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
DanC

Contents


 

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<scribe> Scribe: DanC

Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-02-28T11:00-0500

<HarryH> PROPOSED: to approve GRDDL WG Weekly -- 21 Feb 2007 as a true record

<HarryH> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Feb/0204.html

so RESOLVED

<HarryH> IanD on IRC

<iand> I am not on the phone

<HarryH> PROPOSED: to meet again Wed, 7 March 11:00-0500. scribe volunteer?

PROPOSED: to meet again Wed, 7 March 11:00-0500. scribe volunteer?

Overview of Meeting

RESOLUTION: to meet again Wed, 7 March 11:00-0500, Fabien to scribe

http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39407/endgame/results

<briansuda> yes

<briansuda> 4yes

<briansuda> 4 concur

<chimezie> form like voltron

[#issue-http-header-links]

oops

Overview of Meeting

<FabienG> appologies my corporate calendar says I will not be available next week.; I have to send regrets for next telecon and scribe; I can scribe the 14th of March.

HH observes consensus for taking GRDDL spec to last call, with answers about other docs less clear...

[#issue-http-header-links]

PROPOSED: Take out the HTTP links section of the spec (after the last-call review freeze is over) and postpone the issue, since a URI-based linking feature in HTTP such as the Profile header field is not yet stable/ratified/standardized

HH: issue is open

<HarryH> Chime: Moved into a Note?

<HarryH> Does anyone want to do that?

DanC: good idea, though I don't think it's the best use of my time.

<HarryH> IanD - what do you feel about removing the headers from the spec and putting it in a note?

<HarryH> iand?

<iand> I will concur with the group

<rreck> then its a yes

<iand> yes

<HarryH> Do you want to move it into a note?

<HarryH> I.e. do the work of cutting and pasting it into a note?

<iand> yes, but after other editing work :)

let's assign a low-priority action

<HarryH> That's an ACTION but take your time with it...

<scribe> ACTION: ianD draft a Note about the GRDDL http header link mechanism [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action01]

<HarryH> Any objections to Dan's proposal from IRC?

<HarryH> Going once...

<iand> none from me

RESOLUTION: Take out the HTTP links section of the spec and postpone the issue, since a URI-based linking feature in HTTP such as the Profile header field is not yet

<scribe> ACTION: DanC to take out HTTP links section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action02]

<rreck> rreck needs education

GRDDL Spec: Last Call

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/sched7

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/test_results

^ start of impl report

<briansuda> notes that April 7th is Easter, i don't think that would cause slips

<john-l> (Isn't that the 8th?)

(there's the question of whether they're urgent/necessary, and the question of whether they're straightforward or risky.)

PROPOSED: to take http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec 1.228 + edits agreed by 2 of {DanC, Murray, HarryH} to last call

<bwm> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Feb/0243.html

<HarryH> bwm wants specific responses for HP's comments

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Feb/0243.html

<john-l> GRDDL-aware GRDDL: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Feb/0211.html

<HarryH> PROPOSED: to take http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec 1.228 + edits agreed by 2 of {DanC, Murray, HarryH} to last call

<briansuda> yes

<iand> yes

<rreck> yes

<HarryH> bwm: Fixing IRIs?

<HarryH> Will press for making sure IRIs are fixed.

<HarryH> Consensus

so RESOLVED.

<scribe> ACTION: DanC to take a look at HP IRI comment, murray's comments, and coordinate with Murray and Harry [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: DanC to request LC publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action04]

<scribe> ACTION: HarryH to announce last call to peer chairs when it hits /TR/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action05]

<HarryH> Well, microformats community

<chimezie> healthcare life sciences..

<scribe> ACTION: Harry to announce to semantic-web@w3.org [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action06]

<HarryH> ACTION: BrianS to announce to microformat community [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action07]

<HarryH> Claps hands

bwm: jjc gives a thumbs up. well done.

Primer Document: Last Call?

poll shows some in favor, some opposed, many concurs, and 1 abstain

<HarryH> Even between "yes" and "no"

DanC: I'm inclined to publish the primer, but not as last call

Murray: yes, that's the way I read the survey... perhaps eventually, but not today

<HarryH> Sorry just got knocked off phone...

<HarryH> be back in a sec..

<chimezie> that's not helping

DanC: how about making a WD decision today?

Chime: pending certain edits...

DanC: do we have an editor to discuss them? hmm... IanD is only on IRC
... perhaps best to take it up next week?

<scribe> ACTION: [DONE] HarryH to check those primer fixes in. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action08]

<chimezie> I recall Harry had suggested an additional editor (perhaps) to help with the Primer...

<scribe> ACTION: HarryH to check those primer fixes in. [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action09]

<scribe> ACTION: [DONE] Fabien to fix bug in RDFa Example. Primer now has working RDFa example [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action10]

Use-Case Document: Going To Last Call?

PROPOSED: to publish 1.77 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/doc43/scenario-gallery.htm + publication fixes as WD

DanC: status...

<scribe> ACTION: BWM to propose status text for use cases (starting with commented-out stuff, perhaps) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action11]

so RESOLVED.

<scribe> ACTION: DanC to request publication of usecases/scenario-gallery [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action12]

sometime in the next 2 weeks

Test Cases as Rec?

HH: how about somebody to just clarify which tests are approved?

Chime: I'm interested in the goal of taking the test cases to REC

DanC: anything in that direction is more than welcome; if you come up short of that goal, it'll still be appreciated

Murray: how about recruiting in the W3C QA IG?

DanC: somewhat risky, but interesting idea

<bwm> request to be excused

ADJOURN.

<briansuda> xtech 15-18 May 2007

<FabienG> I will be there and I can help with a presentation.

<briansuda> http://xtech.expectnation.com/event/1/public/schedule/detail/15

<briansuda> Open Data in HTML: GRDDL, eRDF and RDFa

<briansuda> Lee Feigenbaum (IBM), Elias Torres (IBM)

<briansuda> http://xtech.expectnation.com/event/1/public/schedule/detail/121

<briansuda> RSS Remixing

<briansuda> Ian Davis (Talis)

<rreck> http://www.wilshireconferences.com/MD2007/index.html

<briansuda> http://times.usefulinc.com/2007/02/27-openid-uformats

<briansuda> thinks last.fm is heading that way...

<rreck> http://konf.oio.dk

<briansuda> http://getsemantic.com/ is starting with lots of small getting start stuff

<iand> briansuda - will you be at xtech?

<briansuda> yes

<iand> cool

<FabienG> oops, I realise it was ambiguous, I meant I will be at WWW and I can help with a presentation there.

<briansuda> http://upcoming.org/event/98844/ has a short list of people attending, dajobe is attending

<briansuda> rrsagent draft minutes

<briansuda> rssagent, draft minutes

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: BrianS to announce to microformat community [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: BWM to propose status text for use cases (starting with commented-out stuff, perhaps) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action11]
[NEW] ACTION: DanC to request LC publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: DanC to request publication of usecases/scenario-gallery [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action12]
[NEW] ACTION: DanC to take a look at HP IRI comment, murray's comments, and coordinate with Murray and Harry [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: DanC to take out HTTP links section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Harry to announce to semantic-web@w3.org [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: HarryH to announce last call to peer chairs when it hits /TR/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: ianD draft a Note about the GRDDL http header link mechanism [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action01]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: HarryH to check those primer fixes in. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action09]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Fabien to fix bug in RDFa Example. Primer now has working RDFa example [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action10]
[DONE] ACTION: HarryH to check those primer fixes in. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/28-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action08]
 
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