W3C

SWBPD HTML TF

27 Mar 2006

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Ralph Swick, Mark Birbeck, Steven Pemberton
Regrets
Ben Adida, Jeremy Carroll
Chair
(collaborative)
Scribe
Ralph
Previous
2006-03-20

Contents


 

<MarkB_> Steven is also delayed...his new computer has crashed!

<Ralph> Clocks in US move forward next week so telecon will be back to "normal" for Europeans next week

Mark: I've been thinking about using a bnode as the subject for about="" rather than the current document. This allows the document to move around (or be at multiple URIs). I am trying to write this all up

Ralph: I can remember discussions going back 8 years on this sort of issue

Mark: may also relate to the idea of named graphs and might make reification easier

Action review

ACTION: [PENDING] Mark, Steven, and Ralph respond to Ben's off-list draft of response to Bjoern [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/13-htmltf-minutes.html#action05]

Mark: I still want to read Ben's draft more carefully

Ralph: me too

ACTION: [PENDING] once Steven sends editors' draft of XHTML2, all TF members take a look and comment on showstopper issues only [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/06-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]

Mark: not sure of current schedule. The last time Steven and I spoke he was still working through the issues list

Ralph: is there anything in the RDF/A material that is delaying the editors' draft?

Mark: not that I'm aware, though Steven may have an action to add to some examples

Ralph: just want to be sure that if there's anything this TF can help with it's made known

[later in the meeting Steven confirmed Mark's impression that HTML WG was not in need of anything from this Task Force at the moment.]

XHTML 1.1 modularization for RDF/A

ACTION: [PENDING] Mark work on a first draft of an RDF/A XHTML 1.1 module [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]

Mark: no significant progress since last meeting

Ralph: the idea of 1.1 modularization has growing interest. I've been getting a lot of pressure to document use cases better

Mark: I had some of that info in the wiki but the wiki got spammed. Ben's work has encouraged me to work on marking-up a real site

Ralph: is IPTC likely to adopt all of RDF/A, whether to markup HTML or some other vocabulary?

Mark: I did some work for IPTC to tweak RDF/A for them. CURIE abbreviated syntax is a key item for them. I've been wanting to add an abbreviation for ...

<span ....>
<meta property="a:b" content="c" />
</span>

such as

<span a:b="c">...</span>

Mark: this would mean every attribute in a foreign namespace would become a predicate, IPTC is very concerned about the size of their documents; a small change to a news item can add k-bytes of metadata. If we were to include such a feature in RDF/A then there would be no difference between the features IPTC is using and the features of RDF/A but IPTC would not be using XHTML 2. A standard RDF/A parser would understand IPTC documents

CURIEs plural in property, rel, rev, ...

Mark: I was initially in favor but an issue was raised last time that gave me pause. It does get difficult to read if there's a long list of space-separated values for an attribute

Next Meeting: 3 April, 1300 UTC

[adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

[PENDING] ACTION: Ben review Jeremy's actions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-htmltf-minutes.html#action14]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben start separate mail threads on remaining discussion topics [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/06-swbp-minutes#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben talk off-line with Jeremy about a realistic implementation schedule [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to develop a plan for a marketing/news web site about RDF/A and send it to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/13-htmltf-minutes.html#action16]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to draft full response to Bjoern's 2004 email [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/24-swbp-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben update his bookmarklet for XHTML mode [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/13-htmltf-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Jeremy followup on HEAD about= edge case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/06-swbp-minutes#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Jeremy followup with Mark on the question of multiple triples from nested meta and add to issues list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/06-swbp-minutes#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Jeremy look into the XHTML namespace issue and write thoughts into email [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-htmltf-minutes.html#action02]... next
[PENDING] ACTION: Jeremy propose wording on reification [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/06-swbp-minutes#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark work on a first draft of an RDF/A XHTML 1.1 module [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark, Steven, and Ralph respond to Ben's off-list draft of response to Bjoern [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/13-htmltf-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: once Steven sends editors' draft of XHTML2, all TF members take a look and comment on showstopper issues only [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/06-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]
 
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