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Comment LC-1645

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Commenter: Christoph Richter <Christoph.Richter@bwin.org>

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[Free text description]Document as a wholeW3C mobileOK Basic Tests 1.0 Abstract Status of this Document Table of Contents 1 Introduction 1.1 Levels of mobileOK 1.1.1 mobileOK Basic 1.1.2 mobileOK 1.1.3 Out of Scope 1.1.4 Beyond mobileOK 1.2 Applicability 1.3 Claiming mobileOK conformance 2 Conformance 2.1 Validity of the Tests 2.2 Testing Outcomes 2.3 Conduct of Tests 2.3.1 Order of Tests 2.3.2 HTTP Request 2.3.3 HTTP Response 2.3.4 CSS Style 2.3.5 Included Resources 2.3.6 Included Stylesheet Resources 2.3.7 Visible Linked Resources 3 mobileOK Basic Tests 3.1 AUTO_REFRESH (partial) and REDIRECTION 3.2 CACHING 3.3 CHARACTER_ENCODING_SUPPORT and CHARACTER_ENCODING_USE 3.4 CONTENT_FORMAT_SUPPORT 3.5 DEFAULT_INPUT_MODE 3.6 EXTERNAL_RESOURCES 3.7 GRAPHICS_FOR_SPACING 3.8 IMAGE_MAPS 3.9 IMAGES_RESIZING and IMAGES_SPECIFY_SIZE 3.10 LINK_TARGET_FORMAT 3.11 MEASURES 3.12 MINIMIZE 3.13 NO_FRAMES 3.14 NON-TEXT_ALTERNATIVES (partial) 3.15 OBJECTS_OR_SCRIPT (partial) 3.16 PAGE_SIZE_LIMIT 3.17 PAGE_TITLE (partial) 3.18 POP_UPS 3.19 PROVIDE_DEFAULTS (partial) 3.20 SCROLLING (partial) 3.21 STYLE_SHEETS_SUPPORT (partial) 3.22 STYLE_SHEETS_USE 3.23 TABLES_ALTERNATIVES 3.24 TABLES_LAYOUT (partial) 3.25 TABLES_NESTED 3.26 VALID_MARKUP A Acknowledgements (Non-Normative) B References (Non-Normative) C Best Practices' Relation to mobileOK Tests (Non-Normative)
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We changed from UTF-8 to the desired ISO encoding (we deliver the specific encoding depending on the user language – currently we have 27 languages) because there are some handset incompatibilities.

Some handsets send the header, that they support UTF-8, but then produce error’s with this encoding.

Since these handsets were from different manufactures and also in our top 20 handsets we decided to produce only ISO encodings.



This was a decision nearly a Year ago. Maybe this has changed. And I think this will definitely in the future no problem, but currently we leave it as is.

I cannot remember exactly what phones that were, but I think one of them was Sony Ericsson K700i.

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WG Notes: Proposed reply: UTF-8 is used when nothing is known of the device and user. Using ISO encoding requires some knowledge of the user and the device. Using UTF-8 is a compromise and there will be devices which do not support it properly, however, of the choices available in this situation (nothing known of the device and user) we believe UTF-8 is the one that works in most cases.

Resolution: UTF-8 is used when nothing is known of the device and user. Using ISO encoding requires some knowledge of the user and the device. Using UTF-8 is a compromise and there will be devices which do not support it properly, however, of the choices available in this situation (nothing known of the device and user) we believe UTF-8 is the one that works in most cases. If the device is known not to support UTF-8 correctly then this should be dealt with per DEFICIENCIES.

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