Edit comment LC-1628 for Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group

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Comment LC-1628

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Commenter: Kai Hendry <hendry@iki.fi>

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[Free text description]Document as a wholeW3C mobileOK Basic Tests 1.0 Abstract Status of this Document Table of Contents 1 Introduction 1.1 Levels of mobileOK 1.1.1 mobileOK Basic 1.1.2 mobileOK 1.1.3 Out of Scope 1.1.4 Beyond mobileOK 1.2 Applicability 1.3 Claiming mobileOK conformance 2 Conformance 2.1 Validity of the Tests 2.2 Testing Outcomes 2.3 Conduct of Tests 2.3.1 Order of Tests 2.3.2 HTTP Request 2.3.3 HTTP Response 2.3.4 CSS Style 2.3.5 Included Resources 2.3.6 Included Stylesheet Resources 2.3.7 Visible Linked Resources 3 mobileOK Basic Tests 3.1 AUTO_REFRESH (partial) and REDIRECTION 3.2 CACHING 3.3 CHARACTER_ENCODING_SUPPORT and CHARACTER_ENCODING_USE 3.4 CONTENT_FORMAT_SUPPORT 3.5 DEFAULT_INPUT_MODE 3.6 EXTERNAL_RESOURCES 3.7 GRAPHICS_FOR_SPACING 3.8 IMAGE_MAPS 3.9 IMAGES_RESIZING and IMAGES_SPECIFY_SIZE 3.10 LINK_TARGET_FORMAT 3.11 MEASURES 3.12 MINIMIZE 3.13 NO_FRAMES 3.14 NON-TEXT_ALTERNATIVES (partial) 3.15 OBJECTS_OR_SCRIPT (partial) 3.16 PAGE_SIZE_LIMIT 3.17 PAGE_TITLE (partial) 3.18 POP_UPS 3.19 PROVIDE_DEFAULTS (partial) 3.20 SCROLLING (partial) 3.21 STYLE_SHEETS_SUPPORT (partial) 3.22 STYLE_SHEETS_USE 3.23 TABLES_ALTERNATIVES 3.24 TABLES_LAYOUT (partial) 3.25 TABLES_NESTED 3.26 VALID_MARKUP A Acknowledgements (Non-Normative) B References (Non-Normative) C Best Practices' Relation to mobileOK Tests (Non-Normative)
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Comment:

Many issues here (SCROLLING, POP_UPS etc.) could be handled by a smart
UA (and proxy esp for imgs). Telling authors they can't have tables more
that 2x2 seems a little daft. You will risk content developers creating
separate mobile device targeted Web pages. Is that what you want to see
happen?

So many of these failures could be warnings IMO, in order not to scare
content creators.

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WG Notes:

Resolution: Yes we believe that in most cases a single page can't serve both mobile and web users adequately, and this requires specialized treatment of mobile devices. Whether you author a separate resource without tables, or use an adaptation engine to remove tables is an implementation decision left to the author. This group's output by definition assumes that one needs to think about mobile separately, but is only concerned with what is delivered to mobile devices and not how it is authored.

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