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<LeeF> oh yeah
<LeeF> :)
<scribe> Scribe: AndyS
<DanC> minutes 14 Feb
<ericP> 2nd
<DanC> RESOLVED: to approve minutes 14 Feb
Next meeting: F2F (W3C All Groups Meeting, Cannes, 2/3 March)
Eric: Agenda in-progress
... 24 people registeres inc observers (14 observers)
EricP: More of a workshop style for part of the meeting
DanC: noted [test-dodo] items
<DanC> SwigAtTp2006
<DanC> (afternoon of which day?)
<kendallclark> hmm, I believe my availability to dial-in has been reduced to something approximating zero.
Next steps discussion: afternoon of Thursday
<kendallclark> not sure if i need to send regrets for dialing in?
or maybe Friday (SWBPD WG meeting Friday - "fairly informal")
<DanC> no more than you have
<kendallclark> 'k
KC sends regrets for F2F
PatH sends regrets for F2F
DanC: Please publish message sent
<kendallclark> Alabama. :>
<libby> zakim mute me
DanC: may tweak status
section
... should appear any time now
EricP did "EricP to fix /0 stuff in rq23"
Commets due 3 weeks yesterday (13 March)
Continue action Enrico
<scribe> ACTION: Enrico to explain definitions in reply to LeeF's questions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: patH to respond to PFPS comments (pending LC publication) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action02]
<LeeF> Is a *very* minor editorial comment on the current QL draft in order?
No :-) Oh all right
<scribe> ACTION: KC to update protocol references to [SRD] and WSDL [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action03]
<scribe> ACTION: KendallC to edit proto-wd w.r.t. decision: in case of syntax error [including extension], must return malformed query or query request refused [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action04]
<DanC> RE: Belated comments on SPARQL Protocol for RDF 25 January 2006 LC WD
<ericP> hugo's WSDL converter does not do 2.0 to 1,1
<LeeF> Aye
DanC: request someone to feed our WSDL to feed woden
<LeeF> Sure
<DanC> ACTION: Leef to try SPARQL WSDL files with Woden validator, report results. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action05]
<DanC> LeeF, be sure to include CVS version info from our WSDL files when you report results.
<LeeF> I'll wait until it's checked in, and once checked in I'll also update the WSDL 1.1 stuff
http://incubator.apache.org/woden/userguide.html
<DanC> ACTION: KC to update SPARQL WSDL query operation to change name to query-request (though it may change back) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action06]
<DanC> # ACTION: DanC to respond to major technical: underspecified errors [CONTINUES]
<DanC> ACTION: DanC to respond to major technical: underspecified errors [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action07]
<scribe> ACTION: DanC to respond to major technical: underspecified errors [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action08]
<scribe> ACTION: -8 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action09]
<DanC> CR request, in progress
<LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/crq349 search for @@hmm
<LeeF> I can also imagine it going to a LC and attracting a lot of comments (of the form Kendall just mentioned) :-)
Can accept and postpone straight away - input to SPARQL-2
<EliasT> SPARQL Protocol And RDF Query Language
DanC: currently minded not to take requirments to rec.
<DanC> ACTION: DanC to noodle on SOAP exit criteria [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action10]
DanC: I do not expect to chair through the whole of the CR phase
<DanC> REQUEST FOR TESTCASE: something that uses SPARQL media type in POST
<DanC> never mind. it uses x-www-urlencoded
<kendallclark> i've heard that from people at Nokia and at my own lab, actually. :>
<DanC> s/satsifaction of the community./satisfaction of a critical mass of the community/
<kendallclark> erp, i'm actually convinced by those objections now. :<
<ericP> kendallclark, yeah, you noted an interest in 4-ary querying in your SPARQLNextSteps response
<kendallclark> yep, that's exactly what I'm convinced by now.
<kendallclark> FROM/FROM NAMED seem a far too coarse way of doing that when we have a formalism for doing it more finely grained that does *not* involve web-arch issues.
(review of CR draft)
<ericP> i note that this came *from* timbl's comment
<DanC> Hayes: "defns are unnecessarily complicated"
<scribe> ACTION: JosD to make test case from [19]Sergio's basic query patterns examples. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action11]
<ericP> http://www.w3.org/mid/20060118004002.GC12293@w3.org
<scribe> ACTION: EricP to fix test schema to match manifest with negative tests [recorded in [21]09/27-dawg-minutes.html#action16] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action12]
<scribe> ACTION: DanC to follow up re optional test based on op:dateTime triple [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action13]
<scribe> ACTION: DaveB add to test suite the temperature case from comment on truth tables in [22]commentor's message [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action14]
Friday PM : test suite maintenance
<EliasT> I'd like to join that, hopefully we can have one schema for both language and protocol.
<EliasT> I will be there.
<LeeF> Libby is on the queue
<LeeF> No?
<Zakim> libby, you wanted to ask if it makes sense to join with swig for some dawgshows
<LeeF> Oh
<LeeF> :)
<LeeF> Nevermind
<libby> sorry I'm muted!
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