ISSUE-53: Generic resources

genericResources-53

Generic resources

State:
OPEN
Product:
Raised by:
Henry S. Thompson
Opened on:
2006-05-04
Description:
A generic resource is a conceptual resource which may stand for something which has different versions over time, different translations, and/or different content-type representations. How should one indicate the relationship between these?

On Linking Alternative Representations To Enable Discovery And Publishing
TAG Finding 1 November 2006
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/alternatives-discovery.html

This version, dated November 1, 2006 was approved by the TAG on its teleconference October 31, 2006;
http://www.w3.org/2006/10/31-tagmem-minutes#item01

Prompted by a question from Michael Hausenblas, we re-opened the issue
March 2009 to address "how to use conneg" stuff in HTTP spec
"RESOLUTION: to re-open Generic resources ISSUE-53"
-- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/03/03-tagmem-minutes.html#item03

As a result of discussion with the IETF HTTPbis WG, this text
is on its way into the HTTPbis spec:

Note that in all cases, the supplier of representations has
the responsibility for determining which representations might
be considered to be the "same information".

That's in changeset 745, linked from bug 81
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/httpbis/trac/changeset/745
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/httpbis/trac/ticket/81

When Larry explained this to Michael Hausenblas, Michael's
reply showed that he is satisfied.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Feb/0001.html
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Related notes:

A thread of discussion has come up starting with email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Feb/0074.html regarding use of content negotiation. Although, as of 13 Feb 2009 the TAG has not formally agreed to consider that email thread in conjunction with ISSUE-53 (which is closed), there does seem to be some connection.

Noah Mendelsohn, 13 Feb 2009, 21:29:12

re-opened http://www.w3.org/2009/03/03-tagmem-irc#T18-49-14

Dan Connolly, 3 Mar 2009, 18:49:33

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