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The Browser Testing and Tools Working Group will meet at November 11-12 at TPAC in Shenzhen, China. Our assigned room is Wutong Hall, 2F, Building A at the Wuzhou Guest House.

Observers are very welcome to attend our group meeting. If any observers are interested in participating in the work on the test suite or joining the group, we will happily assist with this.

The meeting will be minuted to the #testing IRC channel. All participants and observers are encouraged to join this channel in advance.


The agenda will align with the overall TPAC agenda for group meetings:


We are meeting Monday and Tuesday from 09:00. Although we can occupy the rooms until 18:00, we will round off a bit earlier and have slightly longer breaks than specified, to leave room for informal discussions between group members and observers.

The formal bits of the agenda will be split between techinical discsusions and concrete work on the specification and the conformance test suite.


  • 09:00 - Introductions
  • 09:15 - State of the union (Simon, David?)
  • 09:30 - Agenda review. What else should we discuss?
  • 09:45 - Technical discussions:
    • Shadow DOM - Current spec API vs Future API
    • Handling of Accelerometer / Device orientation
    • Scroll to Element API
    • Window Management - in WebDriver takes a window handle ID as a parameter but this is never passed. Should we keep this?
  • 11:15 - Technical discussions:
    • Define Interactable vs Visible semantics. In last F2F we briefly discussed so would be good to solidify what this means.
    • Drag and drop of elements across frames

As we finish the techinical discussions, we move on to work on the spec and the test suite.


  • 09:30 - Techinical discussions:
    • Keyboard events and mouse (scroll wheel)
  • 10:00 - Meeting with the Protocol and Formats WG
  • 11:30 - Set a more realistic timeline for the spec progress, so that we can get our charter extended.@
  • 12:00 -> afternoon: Work on the spec and test suite.

Calling in

If you are not in China and would like to call in to the meeting, dial +1.617.761.6200 and use code 26633.