Self-identified issues with API candidates

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In the Face-to-Face meeting held in Paris (May 4-5, 2015), Working Group members presented sample code illustrating how they might develop for selected user stories.


After those presentations (which were very interesting!), presenters self-identified issues in their own API. Here are the issues, as captured on a whiteboard during the session:


IndieWeb (presented by Aaron Parecki (note that he was the only IndieWeb participant at this F2F))

(Includes: Webmention, Micropub, PubSubHub, Microformats)

Still needed:

  • Propagating state changes of objects (likes how AS does this)
  • Namespacing command parameters and form encoders work, but anticipate limitations

Chris Webber: likes the wide variety of IndieWeb implementations


ActivityPump (presented by Jessica Tallon, Evan Prodromou, and Chris Webber)

  • cannot get source of content
  • cannot upload multiple files
  • targeting is on "activity" rather than on "object"
  • multiple steps to upload 1 file
  • uses little-known "http notify" verb (note that people are willing to drop this)
  • should be finer detail on exactly what happens when you unfollow, like, etc...
  • harder to come up-to-speed (than the IndieWeb stuff), because ActivityPump is one huge spec


SoLiD (presented by Henry Story, Andrei Sambra, Melvin Carvalho)

  • needs a better community (such as IndieWeb has)
  • LDP is harder to implement
  • need a lot of Javascript and RDF libraries on client-side
  • lack of notification mechanism
  • less focused on "social" at its foundation, and therefore harder to implement the social user stories
  • perceived steeper learning curve for those who are used to developing with APIs (perhaps large companies can devote the time and resources, but doubts not enough will)
  • more flexible for wide variety of situations
  • compared to IndieWeb / AS / ActivityPump, SoLiD is less well-established for social, therefore SoLiD looks rudimentary
  • certain parts of SoLiD spec don't apply to social stuff; maybe should be extracted