- From: Quentin Reul <qreul@csd.abdn.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:39:55 +0100
- To: baker@sub.uni-goettingen.de, public-swd-wg@w3.org
- Message-ID: <bd1d3fc00709180239m41ab82d3v39701872d80381b9@mail.gmail.com>
Due to factor that I do not control, it will be difficult for me to both
attend and scribe today's meeting.
Sorry,
Quentin
Thomas Baker wrote:
Agenda - Sep 18 2007 SWD telecon - 1500 UTC
W3C Semantic Web Deployment Working Group - http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/
Tuesday, 1500 UTC
0800 Seattle
1100 Boston
1600 London
1700 Amsterdam
Phone Boston: +1-617-761-6200
Nice: +33-4-8906-3499
Bristol: +44-117-370-6152
Conference code 79394# ('SWDWG')
IRC irc://irc.w3.org:6665/swd Web-based IRC (member-only)
Chair: Tom Baker
Scribe: Quentin, Antoine on deck (see
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/ScribeDuty)
Regrets: Al (Sep 18, 25), Diego (Sep 18, 25, Oct 2)
Attendance of SWD WG telecons is restricted to registered WG
participants and persons invited by the chairs.
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1. ADMIN (10 min)
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Minutes
PROPOSED to accept minutes of 11 Sep telecon:
http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html
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Upcoming telecons
next telecons: 25 Sep, 2 Oct, then face-to-face on 8-9 Oct
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Face-to-face meeting - Amsterdam - October 8-9 2007
-- Logistics
http://www.few.vu.nl/~aisaac/swd/ <http://www.few.vu.nl/%7Eaisaac/swd/>
-- Draft agenda
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda
-- Registration
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39408/swd-ftf-adam-registration/
ACTION all to register (indicate also that you're not planning to
attend and/or want to attend via telecon)
Roll call for attendance as of 2007-09-15:
WG members: Tom, Guus, Diego, Ed, Justin, Antoine, Jon, Alistair, Ralph, Sean
Guests: Steven Pemberton (RDFa), Mark Birbeck (RDFa), Ivan Herman
By irc/telecon: Elisa, Ben, Michael, Simone
ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after discussion
with RDFa TF [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08]
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2. SKOS - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#SKOS
ACTION: TomB to update Issue list to mark ISSUE-38
"CompatibilityWithOWL-DL" as "postponed"
(http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/38) [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action03]
-- DONE
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Amsterdam agenda topic: "Label relations" (Guus)
-- Issue-26: RelationshipsBetweenLabels
(http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26)
ACTION: Guus to move ISSUE-26 forward [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action04]
ACTION: Guus to post user experience reports for ISSUE-26 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action05]
ACTION: Alistair to state the difference between the two flavours of
the SimpleExtension proposal for issue 26 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-swd-minutes.html#action05]
For discussion on the telecon, from
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#LabelRelations:
Relevant issue:
* [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26 '''Issue-26 -
RelationshipsBetweenLabels''' (open)]
* Issue: SKOS allows to represent semantic relationships
(broader, related) between concepts. It also allows
to represent relationships between concepts and labels
(prefLabel, altLabel). However, there is nothing proposed
in SKOS to capture links between labels themselves, a
configuration which sometimes happens in concept schemes.
Required background reading:
* [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels/
SkosDesign RelationshipsBetweenLabels]
Three options will be discussed in Amsterdam
* [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels/ProposalFour
Alistair's "Minimal Label Relation" proposal]
* [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/RelationshipsBetweenLabels/ProposalThree
Guus "Simple Extension" proposal]
* [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0013.html
Guus "remove range
restriction for skos: prefLabel" proposal]
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Amsterdam topic "Labeling properties" (Alistair)
For discussion on the telecon, from
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#LabelingProperties:
Relevant issue:
* [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/31 '''Issue-31 -
BasicLexicalLabelSemantics''' (open)]
* Issue: Can a resource have two "preferred lexical
labels"? Can a lexical label be both "preferred" and
"alternative" for the same resource? If a lexical label
is "hidden", can it also be "preferred" or "alternative"
for the same resource? ...
Proposed solution:
* [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jun/0170.html
Alistair, 2007-06-26]: Alistair proposes a section of
the draft SKOS Semantics as a resolution for Issue 31 --
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/Semantics/Labelling?action=recall&rev=5.
"This proposal deals with the intuitive semantics of
'preferred', 'alternative' and 'hidden' at the syntactic
level, which avoids complicated semantics conditions and
allows for error-tolerant strategies to be defined."
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Amsterdam topic "Semantic Relation Properties" (Sean)
-- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#SemanticRelationProperties
Relevant issue: [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/44
'''Issue-44 - BroaderNarrowerSemantics''' (open)]
-- Required reading? Proposed solution...?
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Amsterdam topic "Concept Semantics" (Antoine)
-- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#ConceptSemantics
Relevant issue: [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/54
'''Issue-54 ConceptSemantics''' (open)]
-- Required reading? Proposed solution...? Possible problems to discuss:
* Defining the semantics of skos:Concept
* Mixing with OWL concepts
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ISSUE-35: ConceptSchemeContainment
(http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/36)
ACTION: Guus to email a proposal to the list about the issue of
containment [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/24-swd-minutes.html#action01]
-- Where does this belong on http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda?
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3. RDFa - RDFa Overview document http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/
Teleconferences take place Mondays, 1300-1400 UTC -
irc://irc.w3.org:6665/rdfa, conference code 7332# ('RDFa').
Everyone interested in RDFa is invited to participate.
Telecon minutes 14 Sep:
http://www.w3.org/2007/09/14-rdfa-minutes.html
ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after discussion
with RDFa TF [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08]
Amsterdam topic "RDFa"
-- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#RDFa
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Questions from IPTC (Misha Wolf)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0023.html
ACTION: Guus to raise question three from Misha's email -- statements
(creator, date modified, confidence...) about statements -- with the
RDFa group [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action11]
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4. RECIPES - see http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#Recipes
ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior"
(http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/16) -- formerly known as
"Recipe issue 1.3" [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
-- see comment:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0036.html
ACTION: JonP to add questions 1 and 2 from IPTC question --
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0023.html --
as recipe issues [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action10]
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Amsterdam topic "Recipes" (NO DISCUSSION LEADER YET)
For discussion on the telecon, from
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#Recipes:
* Suggested reading:
* Current list of issues: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/products/5
* ISSUE-58 and related mails: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/58
* Draft of Recipe 6: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/BestPracticeRecipe6
* "How to publish linked data" tutorial by Bizer, Cyganiak and Heath,
http://sites.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/suhl/bizer/pub/LinkedDataTutorial/
* Latest Working Draft (2006-03-14): http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-vocab-pub/
* Discussion points:
* Discuss and resolve an strategy to close ISSUE-58: should we fix
the general case?
Is it enough to fix the most common cases?
* Discuss the current draft of Recipe 6.
* Discuss on relationship between our Recipes and the Linked Data tutorial.
* Review status of issues 19 to 24:
* ISSUE-19 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/19 - Recipes should
supply a general server configuration template (open)
* ISSUE-20 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/20 - Online server
testing (open)
* ISSUE-21 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/21 - Apache
configuration
should add that mod_rewrite must be loaded and enabled (open)
* ISSUE-22 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/22 -
Questioning reference
to 'IE6 hack' (open)
* ISSUE-23 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/23 - There
should be some
discussion of alternatives to .htaccess (open)
* ISSUE-24 http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/24 - Additional text
explaining redirect choices in the recipes (open)
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5. VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT - see
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#VocabularyMgt
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Current draft - http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/VocabMgtDraft
ACTION: Elisa will configure IPTC from Misha's email into vocabulary
management documents [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action12]
-- see comment:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0035.html
-- however: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0031.html
ACTION: Elisa to ask for feedback on VM draft [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-swd-minutes.html#action06]
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SWD review of "Cool URIs for the Semantic Web"
-- https://gnowsis.opendfki.de/repos/gnowsis/papers/2006_11_concepturi/html/cooluris_sweo_note.html
Michael, Vit, and Ed should please post reviews in time
for discussion on September 25 call. Goal is to provide
feedback to SWEO by October 2 at latest.
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Amsterdam topic "Vocabulary Management" (Ralph locally, Elisa remotely)
-- Vit suggestions:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0000.html
For discussion on the telecon, from
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#VM:
To be discussed late afternoon Monday 16:00+ so that Elisa can join.
Discussion points:
1. Overall document structure, section requirements and status (Elisa)
2. Ontology Version Management (Vit) --
Versioning Questionnaire Evaluation (Vit) - Survey Results [1]
Reference Implementation of RDF-based Ontology Versioning (Vit) -
SemVersion (Knowledge Web EU project) [2], [3].
Further discussion regarding versioning best practices based on
early results of diff capabilities (Vit)
[1] http://smile.deri.ie/limesurvey/index.php?sid=2
[2] http://semversion.ontoware.org/kwebd233b.pdf
[3] http://semweb4j.org/site/semversion/
Suggested Reading:
* http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/VocabMgtDraft
* http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2007Aug/0001.html
* https://gnowsis.opendfki.de/repos/gnowsis/papers/2006_11_concepturi/html/index.html
* http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Tasks/URI_Best_Practices
* Daniel is liaison, SWD may be asked for review before publication
* http://sites.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/suhl/bizer/pub/drafts/LinkedDataTutorial/
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Quentin H. Reul
Computing Science
University of Aberdeen
+44 (0)1224 27 *4485*
qreul@csd.abdn.ac.uk
http://www.csd.abdn.ac.uk/~qreul <http://www.csd.abdn.ac.uk/%7Eqreul>
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