Re: {agenda} TTWG Meeting 12/6/2014

> CP2 should be fairly quick if Jerry (who owns it) has had time to review,
and
> it's been on the agenda for weeks now. If we can close it off I'd really
like to.

Is there a specific timeline driving CP2?

Best,

-- Pierre


On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
wrote:

>  Thanks Pierre,
>
>  CP2 should be fairly quick if Jerry (who owns it) has had time to
> review, and it's been on the agenda for weeks now. If we can close it off
> I'd really like to.
>
>  I also want to make progress on IMSC1!
>
>  Kind regards,
>
>  Nigel
>
>
>
> On 11 Jun 2014, at 17:52, "Pierre-Anthony Lemieux" <pal@sandflow.com>
> wrote:
>
>    Hi Nigel,
>
>  I suggest changing the switching the order of agenda items 3 and 4, i.e.
> work on closing issues on IMSC 1.0 so we can stick to our schedule.
>
>  Best,
>
>  -- Pierre
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
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>>  Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest:
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>> 1. MIME codecs parameter if we're quorate on this topic
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>>  *Agenda+ MPEG liaison re MIME Codecs parameter*
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>>     ISSUE-305 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>[image:
>> (edit)] <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305/edit>
>> Profile short names PENDING REVIEW Register of TTML profiles and short
>> names <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305> 2014-05-01  1 Timed
>> Text Working Group <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/>
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>>    ISSUE-280 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/280>[image:
>> (edit)] <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/280/edit>
>> nested-profiles CLOSED Add ability to define a profile from multiple
>> profiles. <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/280>
>> 2013-09-06 TTML2 0
>> ACTION-284 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/284>[image:
>> (edit)] <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/284/edit>
>> closed Create the registry page
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/284> Glenn Adams
>> 2014-05-01
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>> ACTION-290 <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290>[image:
>> (edit)] <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290/edit> open Describe
>> the history for how we got to the signalling needed for mpeg that came from
>> dece for issue-305. <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290> Mike
>> Dolan 2014-05-29
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>>  Liaison in mail archive at [1] and text reproduced in ACTION-282.
>> Response at [2].
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>>  *Agenda+ SMPTE Liaison*
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>>  Liaison at [4]. Proposed response at [5] (member-only).
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>>  *Agenda+ Action items pending review*
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>> * ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-293
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/293>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/293/edit> pending review
>> Research appropriate namespace for forceddisplay feature in imsc 1 for
>> issue-312 <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/293>
>> Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 2014-06-05 forcedDisplay should be in ttm
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312> *
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>>  *Agenda+ Action items overdue and due next week*
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>>    ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with   ACTION-207
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/207>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/207/edit> open Add
>> round-down clarification to "closest" language, see issue-259
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/207> Glenn Adams
>> 2014-04-01  ACTION-234
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234/edit> open Explore
>> box-decoration-break in response to issue-286
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234> Glenn Adams
>> 2014-04-01  ACTION-236
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236/edit> open Review
>> consistent use of "root temporal extent" in both ttml 2 and ttml 1 se
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236> Glenn Adams
>> 2014-04-01  ACTION-258
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/258>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/258/edit> open Work
>> with pal to resolve edits needed for issue-259 comments
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/258> Glenn Adams
>> 2014-04-01  ACTION-285
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285/edit> open Implement
>> proposed errata in issue-304
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285> Glenn Adams
>> 2014-05-01 Non-Standard Unqualified Attributes
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/304>  ACTION-286
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286/edit> open Send an
>> email to public-tt describing the ttv hosting site at w3c
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286> Glenn Adams
>> 2014-05-01  ACTION-287
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287/edit> open Elaborate
>> on wording in §4 on namespace extension in ttml2 and as an errata to ttml1
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287> Glenn Adams
>> 2014-05-08
>>   ACTION-294 <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/294>[image:
>> (edit)] <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/294/edit> open Create
>> a sign-up wbs survey for geneva.
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/294> Nigel Megitt
>> 2014-06-05  ACTION-295
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295/edit> open Socialise
>> the geneva f2f meeting amongst the webvtt community
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295> David Singer
>> 2014-06-05
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>>  * ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-296
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/296>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/296/edit> open Define
>> default for @validationaction to be warn if @validation is optional;
>> otherwise, default is abort
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/296> Glenn Adams
>> 2014-06-12 ACTION-297
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/297>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/297/edit> open Soften
>> language about 'willful violation' regarding treatment of duration zero
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/297> Glenn Adams
>> 2014-06-12 ACTION-298
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298/edit> open Either
>> proscribe or define semantics on specifying both @extends and @restricts on
>> a ttp:{feature,ext3ension}
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298> Glenn Adams
>> 2014-06-12 *
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>>  *Agenda+ Issues discussed and raised over the past week*
>>
>>
>>     ID State Title Raised on Product Open Actions   ISSUE-263
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263/edit> PENDING REVIEW profile
>> feature set may not match intended feature constraints
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263> 2013-07-17 TTML
>> Simple Delivery Profile for Closed Captions (US) 0  ISSUE-312
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312/edit>
>> forcedDisplay should be in ttm PENDING REVIEW forcedDisplay attribute is
>> metadata so should be in ttm not tts namespace
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312> 2014-05-21 TTML
>> IMSC 1.0 0
>>
>>
>>     ID State Title Raised on Product Open Actions   ISSUE-306
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/306>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/306/edit>
>> Fractional time expressions in N.2 media timeBase RAISED Appendix N.2
>> omits fractional time expressions
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/306> 2014-05-02 TTML 1.0
>> 0  ISSUE-314 <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314>[image:
>> (edit)] <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314/edit>
>> Temporally active is not defined for regions RAISED Temporally active is
>> not defined for regions
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314> 2014-05-21 TTML 1.0
>> 0  ISSUE-315 <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315>[image:
>> (edit)] <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315/edit>
>> Maximum number of regions should be a processor constraint RAISED Maximum
>> number of regions should be a processor constraint
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315> 2014-05-21 TTML
>> IMSC 1.0 0  ISSUE-317
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/317>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/317/edit>
>> IMSC should not require frame alignment RAISED IMSC should not require
>> frame alignment <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/317>
>> 2014-05-22 TTML IMSC 1.0 0  ISSUE-319
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319/edit>
>> HRM should be a processor compliance test RAISED HRM should be a
>> processor compliance test and allow different levels of complexity for
>> different use cases <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319>
>> 2014-05-23 TTML IMSC 1.0 0  ISSUE-321
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/321>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/321/edit> RAISED typo -
>> s/ttp:feature/ttp:extension/ in 5th paragraph of 6.1.5
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/321> 2014-05-24 TTML 1.0
>> (Editorial) 0
>>
>>
>>  *Agenda+ Issues Pending Review*
>>
>>
>>     ID State Title Raised on Product Open Actions   ISSUE-295
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/295>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/295/edit>
>> Constrained code pages PENDING REVIEW Remove code point restrictions
>> from IMSC <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/295> 2013-11-07 TTML
>> IMSC 1.0 0  ISSUE-296
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/296>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/296/edit>
>> xml:lang constraints in IMSC PENDING REVIEW Remove xml:lang placement
>> restrictions from IMSC
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/296> 2013-11-07 TTML
>> IMSC 1.0 0  ISSUE-308
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/308>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/308/edit>
>> Related video object reference missing PENDING REVIEW It is unclear how
>> a document is associated with a related video object
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/308> 2014-05-02 TTML
>> IMSC 1.0 0  ISSUE-309
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/309>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/309/edit>
>> Image profile fails WCAG 1.2 PENDING REVIEW Image profile needs to
>> permit text equivalent
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/309> 2014-05-21 TTML
>> IMSC 1.0 0  ISSUE-312
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312/edit>
>> forcedDisplay should be in ttm PENDING REVIEW forcedDisplay attribute is
>> metadata so should be in ttm not tts namespace
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312> 2014-05-21 TTML
>> IMSC 1.0 0  ISSUE-313
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/313>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/313/edit>
>> Presented Region is informative only PENDING REVIEW Presented Region
>> section is informative only
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/313> 2014-05-21 TTML
>> IMSC 1.0 0  ISSUE-316
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/316>[image: (edit)]
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/316/edit>
>> Wording of 5.2 PENDING REVIEW Wording of 5.2 doesn't make sense
>> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/316> 2014-05-21 TTML
>> IMSC 1.0 0
>>
>>
>>  *Agenda+ Change Proposals – progress and review*
>>
>>    Change Proposal 2 [7] has been implemented and has been pending
>> review for over 1 month
>>  Can we mark as CLOSED – IMPLEMENTED?
>>
>>  * Change Proposal Index is at [6]. *
>> * Which Change Proposals would owners like to progress next? There are 20
>> open CPs. *
>>
>>  Timeline updated in 13th Mar meeting:
>> January-March: Clean up and complete CPs
>> April-July: Draft, iterate and edit solutions to CP issues
>> August: Last Call
>>
>>  *Agenda+ AOB*
>>
>>
>>  *References*
>>
>>  [1] MPEG Liaison re Codecs parameter
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Apr/0005.html
>> [2] W3C response to MPEG Liaison re Codecs parameter
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Apr/0025.html
>> [3] TPAC survey results
>> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34314/TPAC2014Planning/results
>> [4] SMPTE Liaison
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Jun/0000.html
>> [5] Proposed response to SMPTE liaison
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2014Jun/0000.html
>> [6] Change Proposals at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex
>> [7] Change Proposal 2 https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002
>> Tracker http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/trackerTTML
>> Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
>>
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