ISSUE-2: Practicability of UI requirements for hyperlink auditing

PINGUI

Practicability of UI requirements for hyperlink auditing

State:
CLOSED
Product:
HTML 5 spec
Raised by:
Julian Reschke
Opened on:
2007-11-03
Description:
In 4.12.2.1. Hyperlink auditing the spec currently states:

"User agents should allow the user to adjust this behaviour, for example in conjunction with a setting that disables the sending of HTTP Referer headers. Based on the user's preferences, UAs may either ignore the ping attribute altogether, or selectively ignore URIs in the list (e.g. ignoring any third-party URIs)." -- http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/html5/spec/Overview.html?rev=1.311&content-type=text/html;%20charset=iso-8859-1#hyperlink0

However, alpha versions of the first(?) UA to implement this, Firefox 3, currently have no UI for that, yet the feature is enabled. See developer discussion at <http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.firefox/browse_thread/thread/a8469770c8f9fe52/992ca62f6446a9e2>.

Having a "should" requirement to expose "ping" in the UI, while implementors do not implement that in practice, is problematic.

HTML5-SPEC-SECTIONS [hyperlink-auditing]
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  11. Re: CfC: Adopt ISSUE-1 PINGUI / ISSUE-2 PINGPOST Change Proposal to remove @ping from HTML5 (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-02-23)
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  13. Re: CfC: Adopt ISSUE-1 PINGUI / ISSUE-2 PINGPOST Change Proposal to remove @ping from HTML5 (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2010-02-23)
  14. Re: CfC: Adopt ISSUE-1 PINGUI / ISSUE-2 PINGPOST Change Proposal to remove @ping from HTML5 (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-02-23)
  15. Re: CfC: Adopt ISSUE-1 PINGUI / ISSUE-2 PINGPOST Change Proposal to remove @ping from HTML5 (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2010-02-23)
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Related notes:

resolution of whether we take this up or not depends on what happens with issue 1

Michael[tm] Smith, 19 Jun 2008, 17:09:39

changing this to a requirements issue; i.e. let's confirm that this feature, which wasn't in HTML 4, is required for HTML 5.

Dan Connolly, 22 Aug 2008, 15:33:50

Related thread: around http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Nov/0422.html

Related Bugzilla/Mozilla entry: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415168

Julian Reschke, 22 Nov 2008, 13:05:36

Moved to Open based on submitted Change Proposal.

Maciej Stachowiak, 6 Dec 2009, 02:11:57

Spec changes have now been made. Closed by consensus to adopt a Change Proposal.

Maciej Stachowiak, 4 Mar 2010, 21:50:46

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