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Action item review from last week's teleconference:
agenda in e-mail list archives (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2003JulSep/0031.html)
Doyle: On air radio program "Pushing limits" fund raiser getting good money
Judy: Needed hefty introduction as many people not familiar with it. Orientation: try to take change request on intro section and create a new paragraphs. Reorganized changelog so that one on the top are done. Added concepts: digital divide, leadership, tangible. Some other changes...
Chuck: define digital divide before introducing it is a bit funny, otherwise content looks good.
Charmane: looks good
Judy: What kind of transition to digital divide? Corporate accountability... digital divide...
Charmane: Part of social responsibility?
Chuck: add a sentence before: Digital divide a concern in many countries...
Judy: in all countries even if they call it something else
Shawn: sentence that links the 2 terms with two ideas - social responsibility at corporate ___ level and digital divide at ICT/IT level
Judy: any reactions to examples in the first paragraph?
Sailesh: highlight accessing Web via computers is also relatively unknown and may look like not the real thing
Judy: many countries cannot get screen readers etc. in local languages
Judy: will look for possibilities to further diversify to topics in digital divide paragraph
Judy: is the general approach successful? Is it bringing prejudice to people's mind?
Doyle: not so much
Judy: loose people when a lot of concepts in a row.
Andrew: normally introduction shorter than the rest
Judy: maybe need to split the intro?
Chuck: change from introduction to background and can make it as long as needed
Judy: instead of background could be "social responsibility and digital divide"?
Harvey: that works
Judy: other subheading before in many countries
Shawn: "overlapping..." ?
Judy: has not been updated.
Judy: other sections: No tying together afterwards.
Judy: read the issue paper I sent. [Overview of Corporate Social Responsibility] Skim past the intro. Section on business importance. Nicely done. Subheads jump out and each one is a talking point.
Doyle: access for people/communities to groups in effective way. Marriage between telephone and web not great. Concept of social factors also about groups of people.
Judy: make it more functional and look at things in various contexts?
Doyle: yes
Shawn: highlighting some things but not others might not be effective, so much overlapping between groups
Judy: like providing cafeteria selection for people with dietary restrictions
Marja: helps me to understand this
Sailesh: identify how social reasons impact access to the Web. Also about prejudices and stereotypes of what people are capable of. Economical factors are expressed in other places.
Sailesh: Other thing social responsibility. Organizations depends on the society at large and need to find out how to give back to the society. In general I think it is successful.
Judy: structure of the document may be affected. Maybe discussion of the themes of how social factors affect different groups of people accessing the Web.
Doyle: I agree. More about global community and how that is affected
Judy: In the other extreme lies anti globalization community...
[Support for the themes direction:] Doyle, Sailesh, others
Doyle: having references to other parts of the world will make it easier
Sailesh: problematic to get those examples
Doyle: very important page and highly needed
Judy: request for comments - maybe another draft late September. Can people commit to that work?
Harvey: how to do it? As a group or as individuals?
Judy: as a group can help discussion and make it more deep. Can go through questions e.g.: Are there problems on how the proposed conformance model is expressed?
Harvey: will submit technical comments separately
Alistair: yes
Sailesh: yes, macro issues
Chuck: yes, let's be proactive
[nobody against]
Judy: understandability, translatability, conformance model, ...
Judy: how much time? About 2 weeks. Will send list of questions. Impact on evaluation resource suite, quick tips, EOWG documents? Find-ability or locate-ability of relevant information. Even if techniques are linked a lot of times people cannot find them in WCAG 1.0. How clearly it deals with the transition from WCAG 1.0? Will cook up a list.
Judy: Can get all W2C documents nowadays as one big document or as modules.
Checking EOWG meeting schedule for August 2003
Judy: 15th, 29th -> then f2f Sept. 5th. need time for WCAG review. Judy: why not use some f2f time for review Sept. 5th?
Shawn: maybe will start talking about it already next meeting e.g. if people have found something. 1hour 8th, 15th, 29th
Summary: 22nd is a tentative meeting
Update on EOWG meetings in Dublin on 3-5 Sept 2003
Judy: for last monthh in California, hardly anybody volunteered for a demo without some arm twisting. How to entice people for reviewing evaluation.
Andrew: Would like to participate but cannot do f2f.
Judy: Hard to organize remote participation.
Alistair: Section on how to get people involved in review teams?
Helle: Will we get more minutes on the last f2f meeting for Dublin.
Judy: some minutes exists by Shawn, will send them to the list.
YES: Libby
NO: Andrew, Chuck
Judy: A plan should be in the mailbox now. Feedback needed. Especially how to make Thursday work.
Judy: will invite people from EDEAN network to our meeting
Helle: do others have review teams, could we ask them to participate too
Judy: BrailleNet maybe
Shawn: open to suggestions of who should be invited
Judy: will put together a registration form
Alistair: are some days open to public?
Judy: [explains participation criteria]
8 August 2003