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Bug 7480 - use of keygen should trigger a warning.
Summary: use of keygen should trigger a warning.
Alias: None
Product: HTML WG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: pre-LC1 HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson) (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: All All
: P2 normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Ian 'Hixie' Hickson
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
Keywords: NE, NoReply
Depends on: 7499
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Reported: 2009-09-02 11:41 UTC by Sam Ruby
Modified: 2010-10-04 14:32 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description Sam Ruby 2009-09-02 11:41:07 UTC
Per previous discussion[1], I believe that it is the policy of the editor to remove features that any browser that has notable market share do not intend to support, and then work to come up with solutions that everybody would agree to.

table@summary does something in JAWS and some other UAs, but has issues, the PF Working Group hopes to someday completely obsolete it, isn't described in the spec, and any uses produces a warning.

keygen does something in Gecko and some other UAs, has issues, likely will never be implemented in IE, the HTML WG hopes to someday completely obsolete it, is described in the spec, and uses currently produce no warning.

Per the discussion on issue 53, I believe that table@summary should be described even if is recommended against, but at the very least it seems to me that keygen should get no more favorable treatment than table@summary.  Therefore, if table@summary remains as it is, the description for keygen should be removed, and uses of keygen should produce a warning.

Comment 1 Anne 2009-09-02 12:03:18 UTC
You forget that <keygen> has no alternative, whereas the summary attribute, as per the specification, does.
Comment 2 Sam Ruby 2009-09-02 12:39:31 UTC
HTML5 intentionally provides no alternative "for user agents rendering to non-visual media such as speech and Braille."[2]

Comment 3 Anne 2009-09-02 12:45:33 UTC
That's not what I meant with alternative.
Comment 4 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2009-09-18 19:26:45 UTC
The summary="" attribute is now described and conforming, as is <keygen>. The summary="" attribute still emits a warning, though, since its use can be detrimental to accessibility, unlike use of the <keygen> element, which is mostly harmless.
Comment 5 Maciej Stachowiak 2010-03-14 14:50:32 UTC
This bug predates the HTML Working Group Decision Policy.

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