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Bug 23889 - Relating role=alert with role=status is confusing
Summary: Relating role=alert with role=status is confusing
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: ARIA
Classification: Unclassified
Component: General (show other bugs)
Version: 1.0
Hardware: PC Windows NT
: P2 normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Michael Cooper
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Reported: 2013-11-22 17:23 UTC by Sailesh Panchang
Modified: 2018-05-07 17:36 UTC (History)
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Description Sailesh Panchang 2013-11-22 17:23:58 UTC
After reading the definition of 'related concept' I disregarded the note that says status role is related to the alert role. But it then goes on to reinforce the relationship with, 'Alerts are specialized forms of the status role'. The status role refers to 'A container whose content is advisory information for the user but is not important enough to justify an alert, often but not necessarily presented as a status bar'.
I do not see why then one is trying to relate the status role with the alert role. What is the primary and secondary objective for doing this? They are quite unrelated and the statements that try to make this connection confuses the reader. These statements are best omitted from the description of both roles.
Thanks and regards,
Sailesh

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/roles#alert
Comment 1 steve faulkner 2013-11-22 18:11:43 UTC
Hi Sailesh, 

This is not an issue with the HTML spec it should be filed against the ARIA 1.1 spec.
Comment 2 Sailesh Panchang 2013-11-25 17:47:35 UTC
Steve,
I got to the Bugzilla page from the HTML validator  'Report Feedback' link.
In the component drop down I did not see ARIA. So I did not change it.
And as the validation page says this is an experimental feature for validation, etc. I thought maybe this is how it is categorized.
Even now the closest is 'Using ARIA in HTML'. So I have changed it to this now.
Regards,
Sailesh
Comment 3 Michael[tm] Smith 2013-12-07 07:14:17 UTC
(In reply to Sailesh Panchang from comment #2)
> Steve,
> I got to the Bugzilla page from the HTML validator  'Report Feedback' link.
> In the component drop down I did not see ARIA.

There's not a bugzilla component for ARIA in the Validator product, but as far as I can see, this bug report isn't about the validator behavior anyway -- it's about the ARIA spec. So since there is now an actual ARIA bugzilla product[1], I'm changing the product for this bug to ARIA

[1] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/enter_bug.cgi?product=ARIA

> So I did not change it.
> And as the validation page says this is an experimental feature for
> validation, etc. I thought maybe this is how it is categorized.
> Even now the closest is 'Using ARIA in HTML'. So I have changed it to this
> now.
> Regards,
> Sailesh
Comment 4 James Nurthen 2018-05-07 17:36:42 UTC
I do not believe there is anything to fix here. If you believe there is anything wrong with the current text then please file a new github issue against the ARIA spec at https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues
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