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Bug 22373 - Should a a logo example that is not linked.
Summary: Should a a logo example that is not linked.
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: HTML WG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: HTML5 spec (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: PC Windows NT
: P1 normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: steve faulkner
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
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Keywords: a11y, CR
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Reported: 2013-06-15 06:59 UTC by dmacdona
Modified: 2014-02-16 19:12 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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Description dmacdona 2013-06-15 06:59:19 UTC
<a href="http://w3.org">
    <img src="images/w3c_home.png" width="72" height="48" alt="W3C web site">
    </a>

This is a good example of WCAG 2.4.4 descriptive linked text...
Perhaps have a second example with no anchor, where it is just a flat logo image


    <img src="images/w3c_home.png" width="72" height="48" alt="W3C logo">
  

I have a blind friend that mentioned to me that she likes to know it is a logo, rather than just the company name in the alt text. alt="CanAdapt logo"
the word logo of course is optional, leaving logo off would also be sufficient... but I don't think we should give the impression that we have to leave the word "logo" off in a non-linked logo image... ie sponsorship pages etc...

(of course perhaps these days it is hard to find a non-linked image of a logo on the web.) would like other's opinions.
Comment 1 Mallory 2013-06-15 19:32:51 UTC
Regarding the alternative text mentioning what type of image it is.. there's some limited data from the WebAIM survey http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey/#images under "Identification of photos". It states a general preference of survey takers to know that the photo image is specifically a photo.

The best place to find an unlinked logo would probably be in the footer of the company owning the logo, though I don't have an in-the-wild example at hand.
Comment 2 steve faulkner 2014-02-16 10:46:54 UTC
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Status: Accepted
Change Description: see commit https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/3b7fc6a65b1f1b02ec683324cf6bb8d6edc4ac7e
Rationale: data was provided that users find this information useful (Comment 1)

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Comment 3 dmacdona 2014-02-16 13:45:20 UTC
CURRENT FIX

<p class="note">If the significance of the the image being a <em>logo</em> is considered important to convey to users who cannot view the image, the text alternative in the example above could also include such information. It is suggested that square brackets be used to delineate this information: <code>alt="[logo] WebPlatform.org"</code>.</p> 

SUGGESTED FRIENDLY AMENDMENT
-Remove the double "the" in the first sentence.

OR

Rather than forcing authors to make a judgment call about whether it is important. How about simply providing it as an parallel option of which is just as viable?

<p class="note">The text alternative in the example above could also include the word "logo". If so, it is suggested that square brackets be used to delineate this information: <code>alt="[logo] WebPlatform.org"</code>.</p>
Comment 4 steve faulkner 2014-02-16 19:12:27 UTC
(In reply to dmacdona from comment #3)
> CURRENT FIX
> 
> <p class="note">If the significance of the the image being a <em>logo</em>
> is considered important to convey to users who cannot view the image, the
> text alternative in the example above could also include such information.
> It is suggested that square brackets be used to delineate this information:
> <code>alt="[logo] WebPlatform.org"</code>.</p> 
> 
> SUGGESTED FRIENDLY AMENDMENT
> -Remove the double "the" in the first sentence.
> 
> OR
> 
> Rather than forcing authors to make a judgment call about whether it is
> important. How about simply providing it as an parallel option of which is
> just as viable?
> 
> <p class="note">The text alternative in the example above could also include
> the word "logo". If so, it is suggested that square brackets be used to
> delineate this information: <code>alt="[logo] WebPlatform.org"</code>.</p>

thanks Dave have tweaked:

<p class="note">The text alternative in the example above could also include the word "logo" to describe the type of image content. 
  If so, it is suggested that square brackets be used to delineate this information: <code>alt="[logo] WebPlatform.org"</code>.</p>