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Bug 2188 - R-195: Correct error in the description of order for dateTime
Summary: R-195: Correct error in the description of order for dateTime
Status: CLOSED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: XML Schema
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Datatypes: XSD Part 2 (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: All All
: P2 normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
QA Contact: XML Schema comments list
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Keywords: resolved
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Reported: 2005-09-14 18:52 UTC by Sandy Gao
Modified: 2009-04-21 19:21 UTC (History)
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Description Sandy Gao 2005-09-14 18:52:09 UTC
This was formerly RQ-124.

The current description of order relation on dateTime says "A. Normalize P and 
Q. That is, if there is a timezone present and it is not Z....' This is 
incorrect; values are either timezoned or not, but they don't carry with them 
the information of which timezone was indicated by the original lexical 
representation. For dateTime, the timezone of a timezoned value is an artifact 
of the lexical representation, not of the value. The order is defined on the 
value space.

See (member-only link)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-schema-ig/2002Oct/0258.html
Comment 2 Dave Peterson 2005-11-15 00:42:24 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> This was formerly RQ-124.
> 
> The current description of order relation on dateTime says "A. Normalize P and 
> Q. That is, if there is a timezone present and it is not Z....' This is 
> incorrect; values are either timezoned or not, but they don't carry with them 
> the information of which timezone was indicated by the original lexical 
> representation. For dateTime, the timezone of a timezoned value is an artifact 
> of the lexical representation, not of the value. The order is defined on the 
> value space.
> 
> See (member-only link)
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-schema-ig/2002Oct/0258.html

Back in 2002 this made sense for 1.1.  But it's OBE given the change to incorporate
timezone information in the values, and to remove leap seconds.

As far as 1.1 is concerned, this bug has been a non-issue for a long time.
Recommend it be classified as for 1.0 only.
Comment 3 C. M. Sperberg-McQueen 2006-09-21 00:00:29 UTC
At the face to face meeting of January 2006 in St. Petersburg,
the Working Group decided not to take further action on this
issue in XML Schema 1.1.  (This issue was not discussed
separately; it was one of those which were dispatched by a
blanket decision that all other open issues would be closed
without action, unless raised again in last-call comments.)  Some
members of the Working Group expressed regret over not being able
to resolve all the issues dealt with in this way, but on the
whole the Working Group felt it better not to delay Datatypes 1.1
in order to resolve all of them.

This issue should have been marked as RESOLVED /WONTFIX at that
time, but apparently was not.  I am marking it that way now, to
reduce confusion.