This is an archived snapshot of W3C's public bugzilla bug tracker, decommissioned in April 2019. Please see the home page for more details.

Bug 18244 - Define the "top of the document" in a semantic way.
Summary: Define the "top of the document" in a semantic way.
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: HTML WG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: HTML5 spec (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: Other other
: P3 normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Silvia Pfeiffer
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
URL: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/...
Whiteboard:
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2012-07-18 17:48 UTC by contributor
Modified: 2013-07-05 01:36 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

See Also:


Attachments

Description contributor 2012-07-18 17:48:55 UTC
This was was cloned from bug 15588 as part of operation convergence.
Originally filed: 2012-01-16 19:53:00 +0000

================================================================================
 #0   contributor@whatwg.org                          2012-01-16 19:53:04 +0000 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Specification: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/history.html
Multipage: http://www.whatwg.org/C#the-indicated-part-of-the-document
Complete: http://www.whatwg.org/c#the-indicated-part-of-the-document

Comment:
Define the "top of the document" in a semantic way.

Posted from: 114.43.115.138 by kennyluck@csail.mit.edu
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1
================================================================================
 #1   Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu                             2012-01-16 20:03:51 +0000 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For two cases:

1. Vertical writing (IE9 scrolls a document in vertical writing to the before side, WebKit always the top side.)
2. Screen readers

I would hope we just remove #top though, if that doesn't break sites.
================================================================================
 #2   Ian 'Hixie' Hickson                             2012-02-07 00:28:10 +0000 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#top is used by half the Web.

I don't really understand what's unambiguous about "top of the document". Can you elaborate?
================================================================================
 #3   Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu                             2012-06-20 10:58:39 +0000 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(In reply to comment #2)
> #top is used by half the Web.
> 
> I don't really understand what's unambiguous about "top of the document". Can
> you elaborate?

The non-interoperability as described in comment 1 (vertical writing). But if you feel like the best way to resolve this is to file a bug then feel free to WONTFIX this.

Am I right that you assume IE9 is right and WebKit is wrong? I can't quite tell that from the prose but I assume the "before" side is more of a natural interpretation?
================================================================================
Comment 1 Silvia Pfeiffer 2013-07-05 01:35:03 UTC
EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are
satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If
you have additional information and would like the Editor to reconsider, please
reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML
Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest
title and text for the Tracker Issue; or you may create a Tracker Issue
yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:

  http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html

Status: Accepted

Change Description:
https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/a610adb75b7b5969a3b4bcb6562bb200dc670290

Rationale: accepted WHATWG resolution