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Bug 17659 - XML lacks native hypermedia affordances, which makes attainment of it's #1 goal impossible
Summary: XML lacks native hypermedia affordances, which makes attainment of it's #1 go...
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: WHATWG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Unwelcome (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: PC Windows NT
: P2 normal
Target Milestone: Unsorted
Assignee: Michael[tm] Smith
QA Contact: sideshowbarker+unwelcome
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Reported: 2012-06-30 07:38 UTC by Peter Rushforth
Modified: 2012-10-30 17:24 UTC (History)
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Contains seven hypermedia "atoms" which can be recombined, six of which are tried and true, the seventh which will hopefully become so (9.69 KB, application/octet-stream)
2012-06-30 07:38 UTC, Peter Rushforth
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Description Peter Rushforth 2012-06-30 07:38:19 UTC
Created attachment 1151 [details]
Contains seven hypermedia "atoms" which can be recombined, six of which are tried and true, the seventh which will hopefully become so

1 XLink does not provide hypermedia controls which address the use case of the web, and needs to be replaced.

2 Hypermedia controls should be in the XML namespace, so that all child specifications which need them can use them without declaration ie the semantics are "well known".

This issue has been raised in SVG, to the XML editors via email, on xml-dev in 2010 and most recently on xml-dev again in the context of a new community initiative, MicroXML.

Please fix the issue by adding hypermedia affordances as specified in the attached XML Schema to the xml: namespace [1]

[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace/

Thank you
Comment 1 Henry S. Thompson 2012-07-03 19:51:29 UTC
Quoting from Len Bullard (reference below):

  The fact is as said elsewhere, XML Is Not A Hypermedia Language.
  It is barely a language at all.

See lengthy thread on xml-dev [1] explaining in detail why this is a level error.  Linking is an application-level bit of semantics, not a notational mechanism.

[1] http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/201206/msg00071.html
Comment 2 Henry S. Thompson 2012-07-03 19:55:26 UTC
XML Core WG discussed this and responded at length to the OP, explaining the reasons they will not do this:

  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2012AprJun/0001.html
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012May/0027.html
    (search for xml:href)