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Bug 13598 - Add guidelines about using ins/del in tables
Summary: Add guidelines about using ins/del in tables
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: HTML WG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: LC1 HTML5 spec (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: PC Windows NT
: P2 normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Ian 'Hixie' Hickson
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
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Reported: 2011-08-03 08:29 UTC by Jirka Kosek
Modified: 2011-09-27 21:33 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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HTML with revisions in table (26.84 KB, text/html)
2011-08-13 20:08 UTC, Jirka Kosek
Details

Description Jirka Kosek 2011-08-03 08:29:17 UTC
Section 4.7 should add section similar to "Edits and lists" which will clarify how ins/del should be used in tables. Especially how to markup deleted cell, row and column in the table.
Comment 1 Michael[tm] Smith 2011-08-04 05:12:43 UTC
mass-move component to LC1
Comment 2 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-08-12 23:42:06 UTC
Do you have any examples of pages showing edits in a table?
Comment 3 Jirka Kosek 2011-08-13 20:08:18 UTC
Created attachment 1022 [details]
HTML with revisions in table

Please make your sickness bag ready before inspecting code. ;-)
Comment 4 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-08-31 23:33:10 UTC
I don't mean an example page, I mean a real Web page. Are there real pages on the Web where people have marked edits to a table where individual cells have been removed (but not an entire row or column, since that would be trivial to mark up)? I'm trying to determine whether this is a real problem.
Comment 5 Jirka Kosek 2011-09-16 09:49:47 UTC
Hi, I don't see how you can trivially markup deletion of whole column/row, content model doesn't permit enclosing <tr> in <del>.

As to real pages -- I have seen a lot of documents with such change tracking and at some point almost everything is published on the Web or on intranet (using same Web technology) so there should be some guidance about this.
Comment 6 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-09-27 21:32:47 UTC
You'd do a whole row or column the same way you'd do a series of items in a list: just wrap the contents of each cell in that row or column with a <del> or <ins>.

I would like to study an actual example of a page or document that indicates the addition or removal of a specific cell (not a row or column). I don't mind if it's a screenshot of some proprietary software, or an HTML page that does it today using invalid markup or <font>, or whatnot. But I need to see an example so that I can understand what it is people are trying to do that needs this.


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Status: Partially Accepted
Change Description: see diff given below
Rationale: I've added some text to explain how to mark up adding/removing a row or column; I haven't added anything about a single cell, due to lacking sufficient supporting material to explain the use case.
Comment 7 contributor 2011-09-27 21:33:55 UTC
Checked in as WHATWG revision r6595.
Check-in comment: Add informative text about editing tables
http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=6594&to=6595