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Bug 13306 - Establish a deadline for implementation of WG Decisions
Summary: Establish a deadline for implementation of WG Decisions
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: HTML WG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: working group Decision Policy (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: PC Windows NT
: P2 normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Maciej Stachowiak
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
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Reported: 2011-07-19 22:32 UTC by Paul Cotton
Modified: 2012-04-10 18:41 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Attachments
Patch that adds a deadline for WG decisions (929 bytes, patch)
2012-04-10 04:03 UTC, Maciej Stachowiak
Details
v2 - address Sam's comments (1.19 KB, patch)
2012-04-10 18:41 UTC, Maciej Stachowiak
Details

Description Paul Cotton 2011-07-19 22:32:36 UTC
A WG decision about an Issue can be made in several ways as per the Decision
Policy.  For example, see the Escalation Process at
http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy-v2.html#escalation

Unfortunately the Decision Policy does not state how long Editors have to implement such WG decisions in the respective Editor's Draft(s).  

The Decision Policy should be clear about this requirement since getting a revised document including a WG Decision is often on the critical path to WG members' ability to file new bugs on the changed material.
Comment 1 Paul Cotton 2011-07-19 22:33:43 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> A WG decision about an Issue can be made in several ways as per the Decision
> Policy.  For example, see the Escalation Process at
> http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy-v2.html#escalation
> Unfortunately the Decision Policy does not state how long Editors have to
> implement such WG decisions in the respective Editor's Draft(s).  
> The Decision Policy should be clear about this requirement since getting a
> revised document including a WG Decision is often on the critical path to WG
> members' ability to file new bugs on the changed material.

I would like to propose that Editor's have two weeks to implement WG Decisions and that the DP be changed to reflect this implementation period.

/paulc
Comment 2 Maciej Stachowiak 2011-07-21 17:18:36 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> (In reply to comment #0)
> > A WG decision about an Issue can be made in several ways as per the Decision
> > Policy.  For example, see the Escalation Process at
> > http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy-v2.html#escalation
> > Unfortunately the Decision Policy does not state how long Editors have to
> > implement such WG decisions in the respective Editor's Draft(s).  
> > The Decision Policy should be clear about this requirement since getting a
> > revised document including a WG Decision is often on the critical path to WG
> > members' ability to file new bugs on the changed material.
> 
> I would like to propose that Editor's have two weeks to implement WG Decisions
> and that the DP be changed to reflect this implementation period.
> 

I think the time period should be at least one calendar month. Sometimes decisions are complicated to apply and at times there are many pending at once. Further, editors may well be involved in production of Change Proposals at the same time. The deadline should be designed to be sufficient for the worst case.
Comment 3 Sam Ruby 2012-03-22 17:02:51 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> 
> Further, editors may well be involved in production of Change Proposals at the
> same time. The deadline should be designed to be sufficient for the worst case.

At the present time, we have a number of instances that greatly exceed that "worst case":

http://intertwingly.net/tmp/wgstatus.html#editor

It does not make sense to define a deadline without defining what course of action will be taken should this deadline not be met.
Comment 4 Maciej Stachowiak 2012-04-10 04:03:46 UTC
Created attachment 1113 [details]
Patch that adds a deadline for WG decisions
Comment 5 Sam Ruby 2012-04-10 16:04:52 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> Created attachment 1113 [details]
> Patch that adds a deadline for WG decisions

-1

If a proposal does not have enough details to be implemented without investigation, I would expect such an objection to occur no later than the CfC or survey that relates to this proposal.

Editors need to be able to devote enough time to W3C activities to process decisions within the 1 month allotted.

Should is not strong enough.  Notifications are required.  Extensions should be asked for well before the dates are missed.
Comment 6 Maciej Stachowiak 2012-04-10 18:41:31 UTC
Created attachment 1118 [details]
v2 - address Sam's comments