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Bug 12363 - Include @longdesc in Microdata
Summary: Include @longdesc in Microdata
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: HTML WG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: LC1 HTML Microdata (editor: Ian Hickson) (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: PC All
: P3 normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Ian 'Hixie' Hickson
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
URL: http://dev.w3.org/html5/md/#rdf
Whiteboard:
Keywords: a11y, a11y_text-alt, TrackerIssue
Depends on: 10455
Blocks:
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Reported: 2011-03-22 08:27 UTC by Leif Halvard Silli
Modified: 2011-08-04 05:05 UTC (History)
11 users (show)

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Description Leif Halvard Silli 2011-03-22 08:27:45 UTC
Add this step to the RDF section:

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For each img and iframe element in the Document that has a longdesc attribute that resolves successfully relative to the element, generate the following triple:

subject
    the document's current address 
predicate
    http://www.w3.org/2007/05/powder-s#describedby
object
    the absolute URL that results from resolving the value of the element's longdesc attribute relative to the element 
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describedby will be included in XHTML+RDFa:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Jan/0086.html

Citing POWDER:

]] 2.2.8 Property describedby

RDF Property

Label: described by

Defined in: http://www.w3.org/TR/powder-dr/#semlink

An RDF property to exactly match the describedby relationship type introduced in http://www.w3.org/TR/powder-dr/#assoc-linking and formally defined in appendix D of the same document, i.e. the relationship A 'describedby' B asserts that resource B provides a description of resource A. There are no constraints on the format or representation of either A or B, neither are there any further constraints on either resource
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Comment 1 Aryeh Gregor 2011-03-23 22:33:03 UTC
This seems like a peculiar thing to do while longdesc remains non-conforming.
Comment 2 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-05-08 03:58:09 UTC
EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
   http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html

Status: Rejected
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: This would be utterly wrong. longdesc="" is not a description of the current document. It would also be a waste of time, since longdesc="" values are almost uniformly either bogus or useless, and the element is non-conforming so new valid documents won't use it.
Comment 3 Leif Halvard Silli 2011-05-08 11:06:34 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)

> Status: Rejected
> Change Description: no spec change
> Rationale: This would be utterly wrong. longdesc="" is not a description of the
> current document.

An empty cite="" should be just as utterly wrong as an empty longdesc="" is. Thus, if this is a problem, the Microdata estraction algorithm needs to change - to cater for empty longdesc="" and empty cite="".

> It would also be a waste of time, since longdesc="" values
> are almost uniformly either bogus or useless, and the element is non-conforming
> so new valid documents won't use it.

That is true. Hence I liked this issue to Bug 10455, which seems to be the one that best tracks ISSUE-30.
Comment 4 Martin Kliehm 2011-05-10 15:24:57 UTC
The bug-triage sub-team thinks this is an issue of metadata, not of real people accessing information, thus we decided not to add the a11yTF keyword.
Comment 5 Michael[tm] Smith 2011-08-04 05:05:27 UTC
mass-move component to LC1