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Bug 13550 - type table in 4.10.7 should indicate control type changes based on list attribute
Summary: type table in 4.10.7 should indicate control type changes based on list attri...
Status: RESOLVED MOVED
Alias: None
Product: HTML WG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: HTML5 spec (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: PC Windows NT
: P2 editorial
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Charles McCathieNevile
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
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Keywords: a11y, a11ytf
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Reported: 2011-08-03 01:18 UTC by Cynthia Shelly
Modified: 2016-04-07 15:44 UTC (History)
10 users (show)

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Description Cynthia Shelly 2011-08-03 01:18:14 UTC
adding the list attribute to the input states that support it changes the control from a text box to a combo box.  The table of types should reflect this.
Comment 1 Michael[tm] Smith 2011-08-04 05:15:52 UTC
mass-move component to LC1
Comment 2 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-08-16 01:35:34 UTC
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Status: Did Not Understand Request
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: I don't understand. Could you elaborate? How is a combo box not a text box?
Comment 3 Cynthia Shelly 2011-11-03 21:53:43 UTC
combobox and textbox are different roles in the accessibility APIs.  For example, in UIA
Edit Control Type:  Edit controls enable a user to view and edit a simple line of text without rich formatting support.  (similar to <input type=text>)

ComboBox Control Type: A combo box is a list box combined with a static control or an edit control that displays the currently selected item in the list box portion of the combo box. (similar to <select>)

When the author adds a list attribute, it adds a dropdown list to the control, which makes it meet the definition of the combobox.
Comment 4 Michael[tm] Smith 2011-11-20 23:29:42 UTC
HIxie, I reassigned this back to you because Cynthia has since responded to your request for me information; see her response in comment #3:
> combobox and textbox are different roles in the accessibility APIs.  For
> example, in UIA
> Edit Control Type:  Edit controls enable a user to view and edit a simple line
> of text without rich formatting support.  (similar to <input type=text>)
> 
> ComboBox Control Type: A combo box is a list box combined with a static control
> or an edit control that displays the currently selected item in the list box
> portion of the combo box. (similar to <select>)
> 
> When the author adds a list attribute, it adds a dropdown list to the control,
> which makes it meet the definition of the combobox.
Comment 5 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-12-03 00:05:07 UTC
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Status: Did Not Understand Request
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale:

I'm still at a loss as to which table you're referring to. Do you mean the ARIA implicit roles table? That's the only place I see that uses ARIA terms here. It seems to use the role "combo" correctly though. I don't see anywhere that uses "textbox" incorrectly either.
Comment 6 Cynthia Shelly 2011-12-16 20:39:28 UTC
This table: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/the-input-element.html#attr-input-type
Though, yes, it should be in the aria table too.

Keyword: text
(added column) attributes: list
data type: (no change)
control type: Combo Box

This is true for input type that normally renders as a text field, but gets a suggestion list with a list attribute.  These include: 

text, search, tel, url, email, and number.
Comment 7 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2012-01-13 00:30:17 UTC
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Status: Rejected
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: If you're asking to make that non-normative table more complicated purely so that we can indicate that some of the form controls are sometimes combination text+list boxes ("combo" boxes) rather than regular text boxes, then I think that would be a mistake. The table is already hard to understand as it is.
Comment 8 Mark Sadecki 2014-02-13 15:05:57 UTC
The HTML Accessibility TF Bug Triage sub team discussed this issue and determined that it remains valid and should be opened against HTML 5.1:
http://www.w3.org/2014/02/12-a11y-bugs-minutes.html#item04

This issue is editorial.
Comment 9 Mark Sadecki 2014-06-25 20:46:34 UTC
This bug was discussed in the Bug Triage Sub-group on 25 JUNE 2014:
http://www.w3.org/2014/06/25-a11y-bugs-minutes.html#item03

The TF and the bug triage sub team still believe this is a valid bug and a simple editorial fix.  

Perhaps the enumerated attributes table is not the right vehicle for clarifying how the list attribute affects the control type of certain elements.  

An alternative solution would be to simply add a footnote reference on the text, search, tel, url, email, and number attributes that explains how the control type changes to combo box if the list attribute is included.

Moving to HTML5.1 component.
Comment 10 Charles McCathieNevile 2015-06-12 14:21:27 UTC
Triaged, needs to be done, awaiting the time when HTML can be edited rationally
Comment 11 LĂ©onie Watson 2016-04-07 15:44:46 UTC
Migrated to HTML:
https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/174