W3C

– DRAFT –
WCAG2ICT Task Force Teleconference

30 July 2026

Attendees

Present
bbailey, Daniel, GreggVan, loicmn, PhilDay
Regrets
Laura Miller
Chair
PhilDay
Scribe
PhilDay, Daniel

Meeting minutes

Announcements

Review issues raised during review of first half of document

Announcements

PhilDay: Next week's meeting will take place, but the 13th we've canceled.

Review issues raised during review of first half of document

PhilDay: We'vebeen reviewing the document during the last fewweeks, noissue raised

Daniel: Haven't reviewed thoroughly, but been working through other content. Have addressed some minor editorial issues & refs to old sections. These have all been fixed.
… Also an SC name was incorrect.

<Zakim> bbailey, you wanted to confirm that we are still waiting on links to individual Problematic for Closed SC?

Daniel: I spotted a fewissues, including an SC name that was incorrect

bbailey: We were waiting on the change in structure for problematic for closed

<bbailey> Good catches Daniel!

PhilDay: That's already ready for review

SC problematic for closed - review proposed change in structure in PR 973

Link to PR: w3c/wcag2ict#973

Preview

Note in SCs that have issues for closed functionality

See also the [Comments on Closed Functionality](#comments-on-closed-functionality) for general guidance, and [Appendix A: Success criteria problematic for closed functionality](#problematic-for-closed-non-text-content) for commentary on the individual success criterion.

And in SC problematic for closed functionality, Each SC is now a separate heading rather than being a list item:

### [1.1.1 Non-text Content](#non-text-content) {#problematic-for-closed-non-text-content}

Depends upon text (or a text alternative) being in a programmatically

determinable form.

This is what it was before:

<li><a href="#non-text-content">1.1.1 Non-text Content</a> — Depends upon text (or a text alternative) being in a programmatically determinable form.</li>

LATEST NOTE from Daniel: For general guidance, see also the [comments on closed functionality](#comments-on-closed-functionality). For commentary on the individual success criterion, see [Success criteria problematic for closed functionality, non-text content](#problematic-for-closed-non-text-content).</div>

PhilDay: Before we had a note. We wanted to keep the general link to problematic for closed, and then add the specific link to the comments on the appendix

GreggVan: Is this going to be under each provision?

PhilDay: Yes, a note undder each SC

GreggVan: If we are pointing to where the thing is listed it should be only the name of the thing

<bbailey> Preview link: https://deploy-preview-973--wcag2ict.netlify.app/#applying-sc-1-1-1-non-text-content-to-non-web-documents-and-non-web-software

<li><a href="#non-text-content">1.1.1 Non-text Content</a> — Depends upon text (or a text alternative) being in a programmatically determinable form.</li>

[Phil shows changes to section structure]

### [1.1.1 Non-text Content](#non-text-content) {#problematic-for-closed-non-text-content}

Depends upon text (or a text alternative) being in a programmatically

determinable form.

<Zakim> bbailey, you wanted to discuss preview link

Link to new SC problematic preview: https://deploy-preview-973--wcag2ict.netlify.app/#success-criteria-problematic-for-closed-functionality

bbailey: This is address your concerns
… We could enhance it abit more, but it's good as-is

GreggVan: We have A and AA separate from AAA

PhilDay: As in the rest of the document

loicmn: Good for me, I think it's a good improvement

DRAFT RESOLUTION: For SC problematic for closed, incorporate proposal in PR 973 into the editor’s draft, as is

<loicmn> +1

<PhilDay> +1

<bbailey> +1

<Daniel> +1

<GreggVan> +1 :)

RESOLUTION: For SC problematic for closed, incorporate proposal in PR 973 into the editor’s draft, as is

PhilDay: Once Danielfinishes this and wemerge the PR, I'll send an email for you to review the problematic for closed section

PhilDay: The document versus non-web document is another long-standing change that we have pending

w3c/wcag2ict#949

GreggVan: I don't think we have any other use of the word "document" other than for "non-web document"

PhilDay: Currently we have two definitions: one for document and another one for non-web document

bbailey: I think we have a couple where we have a long paragraph that start talking about non-web document, and then after that first occurrence we just say document

PhilDay: And I think that's fine

GreggVan: It might be useful to keep the definition of document and then say that in this note when we use document wereally mean non-web document
… Or we could put a note under the definition of non-web document instead

ACTION: PhilDay to add to issue 949 this proposal from Gregg

Just have note under non-web document - stating "all uses of the word document in this note means non-web document".

bbailey: That seems better

GreggVan: This way you would have a glossary and the proper definition

We should go with the 2nd option - just add a note to non-web document

NOTE:

All uses of the word "document" by itself within WCAG2ICT means non-web document.

PhilDay: I'll add into issue 949

<bbailey> proposal: in glossary, add above note to term "Non-web document"

<bbailey> SR can use header navigation

GreggVan: The headings make it an extraordinary long document, makes it difficult for keyboard users

PhilDay: List had other issue, when we have long passages within a list itme it also made it difficult to navigate

<Zakim> bbailey, you wanted to ask about evergreen

bbailey: We hope that this is the last version, right?

PhilDay: There are a couple of places in the text we we have "latest" and I've changed it to "current"

GreggVan: If there's a 2.3 we need to come back an d re-visit this

GreggVan: suggest we change to "this version" rather than "latest version"

ACTION: PhilDay to check document and make editorial change (this version instead of latest version).

<Zakim> bbailey, you wanted to suggest changing "latest" to "2.2 with date"

bbailey: I think isteadof current we should say WCAG 2.2. published [...]

GreggVan: But you also ahve to date the errata. WCAG 2.2 + errata s of whatever date

<bbailey> ...plus errata as of mm/dd/yyyy

PhilDay: I'll work through that
… There's only one or two places in the document

Next steps

PhilDay: We'll meet on the 6, we'll skp the 13, we'll meet on the 20 and we'll ask AGWG for being on the agenda for the 18 if possible

Summary of action items

  1. PhilDay to add to issue 949 this proposal from Gregg
  2. PhilDay to check document and make editorial change (this version instead of latest version).

Summary of resolutions

  1. For SC problematic for closed, incorporate proposal in PR 973 into the editor’s draft, as is
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 248 (Mon Oct 27 20:04:16 2025 UTC).

Diagnostics

Succeeded: s/closed/closed section/

Succeeded: s/the definition of document/the definition of non-web document/

Succeeded: s/above tote/above note/

Succeeded: s/add itto issue/add into issue/

Succeeded: s/NExt steps/Next steps/

Maybe present: NOTE

All speakers: bbailey, Daniel, GreggVan, loicmn, NOTE, PhilDay

Active on IRC: bbailey, Daniel, GreggVan, loicmn, PhilDay