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MATF 24 June 2026

24 June 2026

Attendees

Present
jwlilly, pauljadam
Regrets
joe, quintin, steven
Chair
Tanya
Scribe
pauljadam

Meeting minutes

<Tanya> Success Criterion 2.5.8 - Target Size (Minimum)

Definitions

<Tanya> > rrsagent, make minutes

Tanya: assigned Paul as scribe

Tanya: we're stuck on a couple of basic definitions such as platform, software layers, etc.

Tanya: we've been discussing in the previous month the software layers diagram in miro

Tanya: user agent seems to be less applicable to mobile apps or needs a good definition

<Tanya> w3c/matf#270

Tanya: need to define what is a framework, what is a platform, assistive technology, etc

Tanya: made a suggestion for the definition of user agent in software

Tanya: added definitions under user agent

<Tanya> w3c/matf#63 (comment)

Tanya: need to determine how do we name things and if they align to WCAGA 2.2 OR WCAG2ICT

Tanya: we need these definitions like user agent to finalize the related success criteria

Tanya: definition of set of pages, we decided to replace web pages with pages, now we have set of web pages

Tanya: web pages were updated to pages but there was still some screens, views, and other terms that need to updated as well

Tanya: set of pages definition suggested by shoobe01

Tanya: reading the set of pages suggested definition and examples from MATF github issue 11

Tanya: is an application a separate definition or is it a software in the layers diagram

Tanya: are there any comments or concerns?

Tanya: mobile operating system definition

Tanya: there was a comment about should we define the mobile operating systems in scope

Tanya: does this guidance apply to harmony OS ubuntu touch, etc. ?

Tanya: shoobe01 suggested saying we focused on android and iOS but this guidance can apply to others

Tanya: mention most of examples we use are based on android and iOS but guidance is meant for broader use than just those 2

Tanya: accessibility interface definition we may not be able to discuss without more input, this was about keyboard interface, a11y interface, lets skip this for now

Tanya: explaining how to assign yourself to a ticket in GitHub to work on a item you're interested it

Success Criterion 2.5.3 - Label in Name

Tanya: would like to have input from Detlev

Tanya: discussions about second note

Tanya: reading note about a11y actions and excluding from a11y name

jwilly: yes this is tricky and prefers JJ's shorter note

jwilly: read more as a region that has focus and contains the a11y actions

Tanya: maybe we should explain why the label should be in the beginning of the name and remove note 2 because it adds too much complexity that we can't be 100% certain on

Success Criterion 2.5.8 - Target Size (Minimum)

<Tanya> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qbmifBKu_vTXOxbkj6gKOHwBsf-7NVtni0HUkFOgO6k/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.cos5gmam7jdr

Tanya: Steven research on touch target size shared

Tanya: target size says it should be 24 by 24 CSS pixels and we can't change these numbers in our note so we may need to make a new note that states info from Steven's research

<Tanya> w3c/matf#10 (comment)

Tanya: add comments in GitHub if you have any about the note or document

Tanya: we need to finalize these

Tanya: leave comments if you have any on the definitions so we can move forward with the final draft

<Tanya> regrets Joe

<Tanya> Regrets joe

<Tanya> Regrets shoobe01

<Tanya> regrets Joe, steven, quintin

<Tanya> regrets [Joe]

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Diagnostics

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All speakers: jwilly, Tanya

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